Silas Kiplagat said he would try to break the WR this year

do you understand that merga, mo & perhaps bett have shown they can run sub-26'50 & they woud consider themselves 5k runners more than 10k ones & that indicates they are capable of some blockbusting 5k times ???

mo has already shown 3'33 ability in the past & maybe can do that still

he went 26'46 & canova reckons that wouda been nearer 26'40 if not for some slow laps at the start

3'33 / 26'40 - 26'46 ->12'47.1 - 12'49.1

& i'm sure merga woud be in that ballpark - his coach/advisor canova said he wasn't fully recovered from his 12'54 the week before

ventolin^3 wrote:

do you understand that merga, mo & perhaps bett have shown they can run sub-26'50 & they woud consider themselves 5k runners more than 10k ones & that indicates they are capable of some blockbusting 5k times ???

Well darling, I guess I would ask you whether you still think Isaiah Koech is really a speed guy just because of his physique. He did not have much of a finish in New York. Lagat is also clearly beatable, but who isn't?

koech is over-racing for just a young guy

a close loss to merga over 5k & getting outsprinted by bernie in a 2 miles is no disgrace at all

one important aspect re: mo is that i don't think he is a fully "developed" 10k guy yet

he's only really been running elite 10ks for coupla years & this was his 1st great clocking

i still think he is primarily a 5k guy rather than equally good 5k/10k one ( he may be such come '12 )

now, that indicates to me that despite being in 26'40 shape in eugene, his lack of "full development" may mean that he actually is more a 26'30 /26'35 guy, but as yet can't "last" better than 26'40 ( i e he may be able to follow 26'30/26'35 pace for 8 or 9km before "fading" - if fully developed, he coud possibly follow that pace to the tape )

an example is eliud, who most wouda expected to go maybe 26'35 - 26'40 some time back, but has "only" a current 26'49pb, as he never developed into a "full" 10k guy

this is a roundabout way of saying that i think, it may be wiser to use 26'30/26'35 as a 10k to use with 3'33 to estimate a 5k potential for him currently :

3'33 / 26'30 - 26'35 ->12'44.0 - 12'45.6

these are more the 5k times i see for mo this year if he gets a perfect race

ventolin^3 wrote:

koech is over-racing for just a young guy

a close loss to merga over 5k & getting outsprinted by bernie in a 2 miles is no disgrace at all

I am not saying that there is any disgrace in his racing. He is impressive. He is not showing that he has a blistering kick. He is extremely good, and he is a threat but he is not one with the feared kick. Not at this juncture.

Renato, With Silas Kiplagat having run 3:31 in the Kenyan Trials 1500m at altitude, Do you think he is capable of running 3:28 or in the range at Monaco. Is he going to be going for a fast time in Monaco or simply for the win? Or will that depend on the circumstances??? Thanks again!

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Mr.Canova,can you please explain some of your training philosophies for a 1500 meter runner?

After running 3:31.xx at altitude, it is clear he can go sub-3:27.

especially since he also slowed down to turn around and ask kiprop if he was jelly

I wanna see jennifer cruz and ventolin^8 start going at it again. Mo Farah 12:45 ability in the 5k! The 4th fastest guy even in that event! Ha!

Mo farah 12:47 in Monaco. You heard it here first.

How I explain one month ago, Silas had a first part of season a little bit confused. In Eugene, we spoke about start with a very precise plan, for going to Daegu in the best shape. I explained him he risked not to go in the team, without a precise strategy and a full month of preparation without competitions.

Silas started to put specific training for 1500m only after Oslo (9.06), when he ran very poorly because stuck in the stomach by the elbow of another runner at the start.

During the last month, he trained with Collins Cheboi (pacer in Oslo) and the shape of both grew very well.

I came back Kenya from Boston on 30th of June, and I found them in a growing shape, before giving the last workouts :

Saturday 2.07 :

6 x 600m (rec. 3') in 1'26"2 / 1'25"8 / 1'26"3 / 1'26"6 / 1'25"8 / 1'25"2

Tuesday 5.07 :

1200 / 300 - 800 / 300 - 600 / 300 (2' rest in between the couples, and 4' between the couples) in 3'02" / 38"7 - 1'55"5 / 39" - 1'25"2 (Silas) and 1'26"5 (Collins) / 38"6

Friday, 8.07 :

3x1000m (rec. 4') in 2'31"8 / 2'34" / 2'32"5

- rec. 4' -

5x600m (rec. 1'30") in 1'29"8 / 1'31"9 / 1'29"9 / 1'30"4 / 1'29"8 (with last 200m in 25"6)

Monday, 11.07 :

2x300 in 38"2 / 37"8 + 3x200 in 24"2 / 24"4 / 24"3 + 4x150 in 17"8 / 17"7 / 18" / 17"6 (rec. 4' between every test).

Personally, I prefer to use more long recovery during the last sessions of speed, in order not to produce too much lactate, and I prefer to have some training of Aerobic Power (so, not so much lactic) one week before the race.

In this case, for Silas and Collins (and also for Caleb Ndiku Mwagangi, the World Junior Champion of cross and 1500 in 2010, training in Machakos but using my programs, that from August joins in Iten Silas and Collins), the problem was to be ready for 3 following rounds, not easy due to the level of the Championships.

But another winning key for qualifying for WCh, since Trials are in altitude, was to stay long time in Iten (or, in the case of Mateelong and Abraham Chirchir, in Nyahururu) for training only, without remaining at sea level for competitions too long time.

These are the last competition for the athletes of my group (for the track, all under the management of Gianni Demadonna) :

Silas Kiplagat (winner 1500) : June, 9 (Oslo)

Collins Cheboi (4th 1500) : June, 9 (Oslo, pacing)

Caleb Ndiku (6th 1500) : June, 10 (NY)

Thomas Longosiwa (2nd 5000) : June, 10 (NY)

Richard Mateelong (2nd 3000st) : June, 13 (Brazzaville)

Abraham Chirchir (3rd 3000st) : July, 3 (Moscow, only

going and coming back)

Wilson Kiprop (2nd 10000m) : always in Kenya, because injured durig winter

Sylvia Kibet (winner 5000m) : end of May (sick)

Prisca Jepleting (3rd 10000m) : May, 31 (Ostrava)

Different is the situation for 800m, where the adaptation to altitude is not so important. In this event, Job Kinyor (4th with his PB in 1'45"07) competed frequently in Europe and came back Kenya on Friday, 8 July, only.