Lauren Johnson beats Shalane Flanagan in the mile at the UW invite??

save those blood samples

For some reason I don't see a lot of small college women who are running 5:38's as a junior saying to themselves "If I start doping, I'll be able to drop my PR by over a minute and run a 4:33 and beat Shalane Flanagan and make lots of money as a professional runner." There are a whole lot of ways to make a whole lot more money without having to put in all the work. She probably can't even afford the drugs, and probably didn't know who Shalane Flanagan was a year ago...

I have to admit, I laughed my ass off the whole time reading all the posts from all those years ago thinking “Oh, Astro is CERTAINLY going to comment on this with everything happening in current times…”

Sure enough.

It certainly does help support your stance. The obvious is just, well, obvious.

Nobody is denying the Johnson’s helped two of their runners dope. And nobody is arguing that Lauren Johnson didn’t dope.

The issue is you are accusing Wiley of having doped simply because they coached her at one point. When a coach has used drugs themselves and/or in this case helped two adult athletes dope, it doesn’t mean everyone who has ever been coached by them has also doped. It’s a ridiculous suggestion.

Over the course of high school, Wiley was the best 1500/1600/mile runner of her class, being 1st or 2nd fastest each year (2020 doesn’t count since almost nobody competed)

If you choose to be coached by known dopers then you get to deal with everyone assuming you are also a doper. Especially if you run very well.

Out of curiosity, did you happen to go back and re-read what you wrote?

Just curious.

You are a very sick person. It is obvious that you have a personal connection to Addy Wiley and you are absolutely obsessed with tearing down everything about her. Anybody who digs up a 12-year-old post for no purpose but to try to create another Anti-Wiley thread on the front page is in serious need of help. You need to seek out a psychiatrist. You post nothing but lies. Sorry, but your comments are NOT "100% correct." They are blatant lies. You have libeled Parker Valby for a full year now, starting during the 2022 NCAA T&F Championships. You are a sick freak, along the lines of Craig Donnelly. Wiley, Valby, and others should seek out a restraining order from you for their own protection. I sincerely hope to see a few lawsuits filed against you by some of the people/universities you have libeled here. Schools with millions of dollars on hand and reputations to uphold will not stand for having their names drug through the mud for too long. You should probably start looking around for a lawyer because I think you are going to need one.

Nick is about to go to prison for sexual battery, is the subject of a multiparty federal lawsuit, admits things in the police reports that I am not permitted to write at the risk of deletion, but I am the one dragging their name through the mud? Ok. Lol.

I would say it's ridiculous to NOT be suspicious considering the circumstances.

Are you assuming Mu and SML are doping?

Being suspicious is fair and normal. Which is why I went back and looked at all of her results since freshman year of high school. Given her immediate ascent to the top of her class and having run 2:04 her junior year she has shown the ability to run these times without having to dope.

Astro says she is cheating and is 100% certain which is what’s ridiculous.

Deep pull Astro, but this thread is a good find. Lots of little gems here including this one who honestly is pretty reasonable. But that's the thing about dopers--they are not reasonable at all.

Didn’t Lauren run something like 5:38 for 1600 in high school?

You really are a piece of work.

I’m not calling the Johnsons dopers, I’m simply saying even the dopers believe the Johnsons are dopers.

Except she was already being coached by the Johnsons in high school, so who can say what's real? Anyway the parallels between Lauren Johnson and her protege are uncanny, and that is not coincidental. Just accelerated a few years. Given what you have already admitted, it requires extreme credulity to believe that things are on the level.