He's probably getting a decent appearance fee. London is rolling in cash from all the money they get from charity spots. They dropped something like £100,000 to make special travel arrangements for elites with the volcano last year without blushing. If he just wanted to put down a great time, he could do Rotterdam the week before (faster than London). There's got to be a financial incentive.
how about all the good european runners?? u shouldn't forget about those..
viktor röthlin from switzerland will be in the race, with a personal best of 2:07, maybe martinez from spain, or some fast russian dudes..!!
Dathan is currently in a bad place.
1. He now thinks the marathon is his best event.
If he is right, then he needs several months of uninterrupted training, not 14 weeks.
2. His coach does a horrible job in the marathon and creates "needy" athletes.
Alberto holds his athletes hands right up to the starting line. I doubt that Alberto will be in London as he will be holding Kara's hand in Boston which will be run the next day.
3. The calender is not his friend.
Once he fails, he will not have a chance to run another marathon prior to the trials.
Each of those three Canadians also ran 2:12 or faster in their last marathon, but I'm sure Ritz will be a ton ahead of them, even if they all set personal "best's".Have some respect.
douglas burke wrote:[/]
3 canadians who should be over a mile behind even if they set personal best's
2:09:57 PR to place 14th.
2:07:56, if he gets his thumbs right,
I am as much not a fan of Ritz trying to be a marathoner as all of you, but the guy has had some solid performances. 8th or 9th or whatever at the Olympics is not so bad (beating Hall). NY was not a bad performance. He beat several guys with MUCH faster PRs.
Also, although I'm not sure how his training has been going, as for the calendar, London is the perfect time to run a marathon. He will likely run London, come back for the 10k on the track, run the WC 10k and then start prep for the Trials in Jan. Its basically duplicating his 2009 only rather then run the 1/2 in the fall, he'll run the marathon trials in Jan.
I'm not sure how the timing could get better.
My predictions:
2:07 something in London if he has been training well since December and this indoor track nonsense was really nothing.
Makes 10K WC team with Rupp and Nelson
Breaks 27:00 if there is a fast 10k late in the season this year (unlikely it will happen at WC). If not, runs 27:15-25 at WC.
Along with Meb and Hall, makes the Olympics in Jan, 2012. If he finishes 3rd at the trials or for some reason just flat out doesn't make it, he forgoes the marathon and makes the Olympic Team in the 10k with Solinsky and Rupp and finishes 5th in London. If he wins the marathon trials or finishes 2nd, he runs the marathon in London and finishes top 10 again.
As a side note, 2012 London is huge for the US. Americans go 3, 4, 6 in the 10k (Solinsky, Ritz (if he runs), Rupp), 3, 5 in the 5k (Lagat, Teg) and go 2,4 in the 1500 (Webb, Wheating).
he's closer to paula radciffle then sammy wajuria
true or not?
8-10th place or DNF. 2:11 range. He's a great runner, but not a great marathoner. When are we going to switch our affections to the next great white hope?
Ritz will be top 3 in London
Is Sammy allowed to start, after his family argument?
Or does he have to draw conclusions?
fgfg wrote:
he's closer to paula radciffle then sammy wajuria
true or not?
wanjiru 2:05.10 personal best, ritz 2:10.00 personal best = 4 minute and 50 seconds difference.
ritz 2:10.00 personal best radcliffe 2:15.25 = 5 minute 25 second difference.
yeah ritz is closer to wanjiru, than radcliffe is to him.
fgfg wrote:
he's closer to paula radciffle then sammy wajuria
true or not?
Ritz to Wanjiru = 4:50 (2:10:00 vs. 2:05:10)
Ritz to Radcliffe = 5:25 (2:10:00 vs. 2:15:25)
So he's closer to Sammy.
markeroon wrote:
Each of those three Canadians also ran 2:12 or faster in their last marathon, but I'm sure Ritz will be a ton ahead of them, even if they all set personal "best's".
Have some respect.
douglas burke wrote:[/]3 canadians who should be over a mile behind even if they set personal best's
well lets say they run 2:10, the top 2-3 should run 2:04-2:05 so yeah they will be a about a mile or a little more behind.
Someone, help me out here. Malmo?
So, Ritz did not have enough base under him for NY, so says Alberto. isn;t he currently dinged up, too dinged to have run the Cross race?
Now he has about 10-11 weeks prior to taper? How is that going to work?
Plus, , so he runs the Marathon, then has to go easy for a period to recover at least some, then I would assume he is going to try and run something to qualify for Worlds in track I would hope, which are in July?
I just do not get the focus, and how it would work?
How is this enough prep for a major marathon given he just had to scratch?
I would think they would have reversed it, prep long and well for Track and Worlds, base up and prep for possibles in either that/or 2012 Marathon if they see having to stay in that event, which I do not at this point at all.
douglas burke wrote:
markeroon wrote:Each of those three Canadians also ran 2:12 or faster in their last marathon, but I'm sure Ritz will be a ton ahead of them, even if they all set personal "best's".
Have some respect.
well lets say they run 2:10, the top 2-3 should run 2:04-2:05 so yeah they will be a about a mile or a little more behind.
I think the debate was weather Ritz will be a mile ahead. I say no. Ritz is tough as hell and a great runner. But 110miles just isn't enough for him to be a 2:06 guy. He'll go out hard and on pace for 2:06. But that lack of strength that is achieved by putting in the 140mile weeks isn't there, and he'll positive split every time. 2:09:30 or DNS for Ritz is my prediction.
some advice..? wrote:
how about all the good european runners?? u shouldn't forget about those..
viktor röthlin from switzerland will be in the race, with a personal best of 2:07, maybe martinez from spain, or some fast russian dudes..!!
martinez is 39 years old and ran his 2:08.09 in 2003, last year he ran a marathon in 2:17 and 3 half marathons in 62:50- 63:40, 2003 was the last time he ran under 2:10
rothlin won the euro marathon in 2:15 and ran 2 half marathons 1 over 65 minutes and 1 over 68 minutes where he was behind the womens winner.
ritz is by far the best runner not from africa in the race, though his personal best is only 2:10 his 5k-half marathon ability gives him a realistic chance of 2:05-2:06
Ritz to Wanjiru = 4:50 (2:10:00 vs. 2:05:10)
Ritz to Radcliffe = 5:25 (2:10:00 vs. 2:15:25)
So he's closer to Sammy.
Yup! By about 35 seconds - 200 yards in a sprint! Ha!
Ritz to Wanjiru = 4:50 (2:10:00 vs. 2:05:10)
Ritz to Radcliffe = 5:25 (2:10:00 vs. 2:15:25)
So he's closer to Sammy.
Yup! By about 35 seconds - 200 yards in a sprint! Ha!
trialswatcher wrote:
Someone, help me out here. Malmo?
So, Ritz did not have enough base under him for NY, so says Alberto. isn;t he currently dinged up, too dinged to have run the Cross race?
Now he has about 10-11 weeks prior to taper? How is that going to work?
How is this enough prep for a major marathon given he just had to scratch?
Good God, people. HE'S NOT STARTING HIS MARATHON PREP TODAY!!! HE'S BEEN TRAINING SINCE HIS BREAK AFTER NYC!!! just because he "dings" his foot doesn't mean he has to start his training all over. where, oh where, have you seen evidence that this is the case? NYC was in November... 5 months isn't enough time for an elite to train for a marathon?
why do people think he is starting his marathon buildup today?