Lukezic banned?

USADA has some work to do at the 20k this weekend...

Citizen Runner wrote:

relevant question wrote:

Does this mean Webb is dirty too?

In the off chance that you're serious, according to the USADA website Webb has been tested twice so far this year and four times in each of the previous two years. Since he hasn't competed in the US, I presume both tests this year were out-of-competition tests like the one Lukezic was asked to take. You can see individual test history here:

http://www.usada.org/what-we-do/testing-statistics/athlete-test-history.aspx

chris solinsky apperently hasn't been tested since 08...

unreal wrote:

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — USADA has suspended retired distance runner Chris Lukezic for two years for refusing to take an out-of-competition doping test.

Lukezic's ban started Tuesday. He declined to take the test on April 20, so his results since that date also were thrown out.

The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency says the 26-year-old Lukezic, of San Francisco, didn't file the proper paperwork announcing his retirement before refusing to take the test. The agency says the 2006 U.S. Indoor 1,500-meter champion has properly retired from competition since that date.

USADA announced the ban on Thursday.

Hmmmm..... April 20th..... refusing to take a drug test...

why not eh?? wrote:

chris solinsky apperently hasn't been tested since 08...

Aside from twice in '10, three times in '09, and twice in '08? The search for individual athletes isn't working for me. Look at the list of all athletes tested in those years, though. He's on there.

Lukezic just posted his official response on his blog at http://chrislukezic.com/

In Lukezic's statement he indicates that his retirement e-mail went to USATF.

According to USADA:

"Retirement

For USADA purposes, any athlete who retires must promptly inform USADA and his/her respective NGB, in writing through fax, courier, or e-mail. If an athlete sends the retirement statement via e-mail, the retirement statement must come from an e-mail address that is on file with USADA. If a USA Swimming or USA Track and Field athlete wishes to retire, he/she must first contact his/her NGB as those sports require specific forms to be completed."

It appears to me that USATF is the ones to blame here. As Lukezic contacted them via e-mail, USATF should have then let Lukezic know that they had specific retirement forms that needed to be completed. If I were Lukezic I would be getting my lawyer on board to take on USATF for their negligence.

I'm pretty sure marijuana is not banned out of competition

itsinthewoodsright wrote:

I'm pretty sure marijuana is not banned out of competition

Wasn't Michael Phelps suspended for smoking pot out of competition?

brogan1 wrote:

itsinthewoodsright wrote:

I'm pretty sure marijuana is not banned out of competition

Wasn't Michael Phelps suspended for smoking pot out of competition?

Yup but not by WADA but by swimming's federation as more of a "moral's clause" then a drug bust.

actually, i think it's referred to as the "teddy rule", one which teddy mitchell is SO proud of. he was busted more than once for pot, so as i recall, usatf or usada made it something like a 3month suspension for cannibis.

all in all, this is stupid but it will forever be something crhis can laugh about.

i don't think i would laugh about it. it sort of makes him looks foolish, as it also does the powers that be. i wouldn't want an asterix next to my name that said in neon: "i refused to take a drug test because i had been smoking pot".

I agree with you (“Has it come to this?”). I’m glad that you added that last bit about your stance not implying that Lukezic is actually guilty. Retired athletes can and do refuse to test for a variety of reasons other than their supposed guilt/ avoidance. Once retired however, they can then indulge themselves to their hearts content, if they so choose and that in no way should invalidate their pre-retirement times, records and or performances. Once an athlete declares his or her intension to retire (through the “properly filed paperwork”) then there is I believe, an automatic 2-year (or more) period where they can’t come back. Once that time has then passed and if they decide to return to official competition, they are then again required to be rigorously tested several times before they even get near the track. So it is a good system! But what an athlete does in their “free-time” needs to remain their own damn business no matter how self-destructive it might appear to others and or the sport!

vietato wrote:

Retired athletes can and do refuse to test for a variety of reasons other than their supposed guilt/ avoidance. Once retired however, they can then indulge themselves to their hearts content, if they so choose and that in no way should invalidate their pre-retirement times, records and or performances.

You mean, if you run a world record and immediately after you cross the line, you declare your retirement, you can no longer be tested and your pre-retirement time cannot be questioned? Surely, there has to be a period after announcing retirement when you are still eligible to be tested.

once again, we wonder why our sport isn't popular. our governing body tracks down retired runners and expects them to submit to their will at 6am. i woulda told em to shove a stick up their ass to be honest, he was far too nice.

I should think an exit test would be or is give to finalize the retirement to prevent your formfilling out at the line scenario to permit you to juice for your last race. Anyway you slice it a record can not be verified without a drugtest under todays rules.

Querfeldein wrote:

You mean, if you run a world record and immediately after you cross the line, you declare your retirement, you can no longer be tested and your pre-retirement time cannot be questioned? Surely, there has to be a period after announcing retirement when you are still eligible to be tested.

why not eh?? wrote:

chris solinsky apperently hasn't been tested since 08...

When I search solinsky, I get twice in 2008, three times in 2009, and twice in 2010.

Whats so special about 4/20?

have you been living under a rock your whole life?

That's not an answer...