Hasay - 9:15.78 - Lifetime Best

You morons. Clearly you didn't run in college, because if you did, you'd know what a phenomenal freshman year she's had compared to most freshmen. Most coaches simply hope their freshmen get through the year without getting seriously injured or SLOWER than they were in high school

Bravo to the last 5 posts!

"Great race for her, but not a PR, she ran 9:12:25 on 2/13/10 @ U of W."

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That race in February was on an oversized INDOOR track. Don't you guys get it? Indoor racing has no weather elements (such as wind) to deal with. This was, as has been stated, an Outdoor PR for Jordan. The glass is half full, even for the negative ones here.

Here is link to video of race http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9vZ89oWr9E

With three laps to go, Hasay was no longer in this race...she was fading badly.

Kid, I wasn't being negative at all, I was just stating that she had run 3000m faster.

Really Real wrote:

That race in February was on an oversized INDOOR track. Don't you guys get it? Indoor racing has no weather elements (such as wind) to deal with. This was, as has been stated, an Outdoor PR for Jordan. The glass is half full, even for the negative ones here.

But it was slower pace wise than her 3200 best from 2 years ago. Time wise this would be a sudo pr to most since she's already run faster over a longer distance.

But i agree with others that she did have a good year. Ran great in XC, ran great indoors, and did manage a 1500 pr outdoors. Many go into their freshman year and get worse, she stepped it up a bit, maybe not to everyones expectations, but no one has a breakthrough year every year. She has a good first year to build on and hopefully some great things to follow.

Mrr82 wrote:

Let's get serious back at you. It may be a PR, but as a JR in HS she went 9:52.13 for 3200, which is ever so slightly a faster pace over a longer distance. I doubt she's thinking, oh i PR'd at a slower pace over a shorter distance than i ran 2 years ago.

wow that sucks.

Nothing against Jordan, but this race simply illustrates the huge gap between the Africans and everyone else. It seems that no matter what the pace, they can step on it with 2-3 laps to go and finish strong, while everyone else is just surviving, having already hit their ceiling pace.

damned if you do damned if you don't. if she would have fizzled out by this point of the year and not even qualified for these championships she's called a failure. she qualifies and is competitive at the world stage (she did make a move with the lead pack with 2 laps to go it think...they shrugged her off) and she's still a failure. to be honest im amazed at the year she's put together, she's going to be a very special athlete in the sport like it or not.

That was a great race.

True. Its not so much knocking on Jordan, its disappointment that the signs are she might be good, but not a world beater (and never will be). The casual fan is only interested in the next #1.

The warm, muggy, breezy conditions account for the time, and in part, for the African dominance. Jordan has improved for nearly a decade, and will continue to do so for years to come.

Special props to Emily Sisson for her fantastic performance under the circumstances.

The Azerbaijan girl is actually Ethiopian. Where is the hell is Azerbaijan and how does anEthiopian runner wind up running for them.

Azerbaijan, formally the Republic of Azerbaijan is one of the six independent Turkic states in the Caucasus region of Eurasia.

Located at the crossroads of Eastern Europe and Western Asia, it is bounded by the Caspian Sea to the east, Russia to the north, Georgia to the northwest, Armenia to the west, and Iran to the south.

I thought that name sounded familiar. There used to be quite a few centurians from there, due to their healthy diet and plenty of exercise in the mountains. The later generations have a modern diet, don't exercise much and don't live as long.

wefyrhiorfjkl wrote:

damned if you do damned if you don't. if she would have fizzled out by this point of the year and not even qualified for these championships she's called a failure. she qualifies and is competitive at the world stage (she did make a move with the lead pack with 2 laps to go it think...they shrugged her off) and she's still a failure. to be honest im amazed at the year she's put together, she's going to be a very special athlete in the sport like it or not.

The jury is out as to whether she will be a very special athlete or not. Personally I'm not sure if she is going to be as good as some of her contemporaries. I think Sisson, Goethals, Cuffe and particularly Sveinnson (sp?) could all be more talented and go further. Having said that the transition from junior phenom to senior star is never an easy one - look at the difficulties that Brasovan, Mclauglin and Chetelat currently seem to be having.

In respect of athletes from our side of the pond, Gorecka had a relatively good race. The brightest prospect in UK women's distance running at the moment is Hannah England and she wasn't seen as a star so much as a junior. Other juniors who we thought would be good such as Edwards, Purdue and Pidgeon have had checkered transitions and even Twell's progression seems to have stalled.

Some Coked Up Brit wrote:

In respect of athletes from our side of the pond, Gorecka had a relatively good race. The brightest prospect in UK women's distance running at the moment is Hannah England and she wasn't seen as a star so much as a junior. Other juniors who we thought would be good such as Edwards, Purdue and Pidgeon have had checkered transitions and even Twell's progression seems to have stalled.

that's because of the drugs

She's done for the season , get her home , week off , chill out. She had a great year as a freshman.

Not sure what they are thinking by her still racing after a long hard year. In the scope of things , Jr. Worlds mean little after a college season.

abcds wrote:

Is she faster then Pidgeon and Twell at the same age?

Similar to Pidgeon:

Gorecka - 2.13.23, 4.16.69, 9.18.38, 15.56

Pidgeon - 2.11.1, 4.17.83, 9.17.9, 16.04 (the next year she ran 4.18, 9.06, 15.41, then reached a plateau for a few years)

Twell - 2.09.9, 4.25, 9.41, 16.49 (the next year she improved to 2.06.9, 4.12.7, 9.07, 16.05)

Mick Woods coaches both Gorecka and Twell, perhaps he can help her avoid the stagnation that affected Pidgeon for a few years - although she has improved again recently (4.13 last year, 15.32 this year).

Whatever happened to that Hopkinson girl who trained with Pidgeon under Dave Farrow? She looked to have some promise!