Does anyone else have computer rage?

Ho Hum wrote:

Apple is overpriced crap for smug white people who know nothing about computers. They're the Bose of the computer world.

This pretty sums up my impression. Unfortunately, those "Bose" are still better than those Win"Doze" in many respects (see above).

Mac attack wrote:

I switched to a Mac two years ago. My estimate is, I save 2 to 3 hours a week on IT stuff.

Get It wrote:

Win 7 require 2-4 hours of maintenance per week futzing around with this and that.

I don't visit these message boards too often, but the computer-related propaganda never seems to disappear.

I'm sorry folks, but if you really are spending 2-4 hours per week configuring Windows, your operating system wasn't configured properly from the very beginning, and that's a fact. I devote about 30 minutes of time and 2-3 reboots per month on my Windows home network machines.

Case in point:

Mac attack wrote:

...two years, running a Mac 50 plus hours per week. No virus. No reinstallation of software.

The oldest machine on my home network is a WinXP computer I built during the summer Olympics... the 2004 summer Olympics. Six years, powered up 24/7, shared by four different people (including two teenagers). No virus. No reinstallation of software.

We know from your years of posts that you are a liar. You are obsessed with micro shit. We don't listen to your obvious fabrications.

Computer Guru wrote:

I don't visit these message boards too often, but the computer-related propaganda never seems to disappear.

You are a Liar wrote:

We know from your years of posts that you are a liar. You are obsessed with micro shit. We don't listen to your obvious fabrications.

Classy. I see that some things never change.

I don't know how people are spending 2-4 hours per week on maintenance.. what do you do, defrag twice a week? Even if you did, you could easily leave it running while you are asleep.

I feel like most people who have problems with Windows bought their computer in a store for like $200 or however low it is nowadays. You get what you pay for, everything preassembled, a bunch of programs already installed into it, outdated components inside of it, etc. I built mine from scratch and it still runs as fast as day one.. it's about two years old. If I had a store bought computer for two years.. well I have had plenty of those and they ran like ****. After booting Windows up and loading the desktop screen it would take at least a minute to open up an internet browser. It's more like 5 seconds at worst now, mostly around 2-3 seconds.

Windows 7 is great, especially compared to Vista and XP. Before I even had my internet connection hooked up, it installed my sound drivers that required a CD for (or on their website). Still don't know how it did that. Yeah, Vista sucked and so did ME, it happens. I haven't personally delved into Linux, Ubunto, Macs, etc to have an opinion on them, but they all have their strengths and weaknesses. Windows does everything for me just fine.

linux is great if you have a lot of spare time - you will need it trying to find drivers and driver work arounds and begging for advice from snotty a$$hats who dont know the first thing about computers but make themselves feel better by having an attitude. kinda like letsrun and running.

Win Puke 7 ? What a P.O.S. Microshit is the BP of the PC industry.

Hmm, you peeps have not been paying attention. The 2-4 hours per week is an AVERAGE. If the computer craps out and you lose two days of work, then you lose about 20 hours.

If you wait for programs to actually be usable when you start a PC then, you lose time. If the computer heats up and starts going insane because more than three large software programs are running, you lose time.

Computer Guru is a troll. He's on these forums all the time. Sometimes he offers useful advice, but mostly it's undying support for Windows Vista over all other softwart, even Win XP, and now I assume Win 7. Vista is his example of the best software ever developed.

I doubt the Guru??? has heard this quote directly from of Microsoft's COO Kevin Turner,

"...It looks like iPhone 4 might be their [Apple's] Vista. And I’m OK with that,” he said."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/15/microsoft_kevin_turner_vista_iphone_4/

Only a company like Microsoft could try throwing poo at someone and hit themselves with most of it. Microsoft really hates Vista, their bastard child.

what problems specifically? dude a antivirus software company download been hassling me forever. every 5 mins a popup saying serious system virus yadayadayada. I ignore it. my computer working fine. just trying to scare the crap out of me to scare out some dollars? I ain't even online 90 percent of the time. intentionally switched off my connection. still those scare tactics come. weak sham.

Win Puke 7 wrote: Win Puke 7 ? What a P.O.S. ...

I switched to a Mac two years ago, drive there by Vista POS. I had read that people where happy with Win 7. You make is sound like Win 7 is really Vista 2 in disguise. Is Win 7 starting to come apart at the seems now? Is something bad happening after a year or so of running a PC with Win 7?

Mac Attack wrote:

Win Puke 7 wrote: Win Puke 7 ? What a P.O.S. ...

I switched to a Mac two years ago, drive there by Vista POS. I had read that people where happy with Win 7. You make is sound like Win 7 is really Vista 2 in disguise. Is Win 7 starting to come apart at the seems now? Is something bad happening after a year or so of running a PC with Win 7?

You would love to hear something bad about windows 7, wouldn't you? That's how I know you don't *actually* care about which operating system is better, or which one fits you.

Here's a breakdown:

Mac offers ease of use at the cost of low affordability and low flexibility.

Linux offers ultimate flexibility and affordability at the cost of difficulty of use.

PC offers a midway between flexibility, affordability, and ease/difficulty of use.

It comes down to personal preference. So stop sucking yourselves off.

Winpuke7 is a total abortion. B.P. could do a better job.

[quote]dukepuke wrote:

Mac offers ease of use at the cost of low affordability and low flexibility.

Low flexibility is not an issue. When considering "affordability" you need to consider more than first cost. Cost of software, antivirus, maintenance, expected life, resale value.

When switching to a Mac, I also switched to OpenOffice and Thunderbird (email), both freeware. I have spent maybe $100 on software, including $30 to upgrade to OSx 10.6. Video editing, sound editing, image capture, etc. are included free on with a Mac.

Linux offers ultimate flexibility and affordability at the cost of difficulty of use.

I'm not a Linux user, but did consider going that way before I purchased a Mac. My final decision was based on how much time was I willing to spend setting up a Linux system, plus getting software and hardware to work properly. My business billing rate is $195 per hour. It was a no brainer deciding to spend $1,000 more a Mac. I assumed at least about 20 hours worth of effort setting up a Linux system, so about double the amount of lost billing time. I did not consider paying a computer geek to set a system up for me. I need the ability to understand a computer enough to fix some problems on my own.

PC offers a midway between flexibility, affordability, and ease/difficulty of use.

PCs went from being a midway system to something much more difficult when Vista was invented. In my opinion, Vista was a blown marketing attempt to force all users to upgrade all the software they owned.

My biggest "forced software upgrade" annoyance was not being able to use MS Office XP with Vista. MS crippled remembering email passwords for Outlook XP. After spending more hours trying to figure out why Outlook did not remember Outlook passwords, I learned that the MS position was that Office XP was not virus safe software. It was not worth fixing to work properly with Vista. Their solution was that you must upgrade to a newer version of Office. Problem $olved.

It comes down to personal preference. So stop sucking yourselves off.

Computer type is a personal preference. You were doing okay until you final sentence. Why the level of immaturity at the end of your post? Why are you so unhappy?

It sounds like you made a well calculated decision, and I'm glad you don't regret it.

See my next post concerning Linux.

drinker wrote:

what problems specifically? dude a antivirus software company download been hassling me forever. every 5 mins a popup saying serious system virus yadayadayada. I ignore it. my computer working fine. just trying to scare the crap out of me to scare out some dollars? I ain't even online 90 percent of the time. intentionally switched off my connection. still those scare tactics come. weak sham.

You have spyware on your machine. Get rid of that.

BigShooter wrote:

linux is great if you have a lot of spare time - you will need it trying to find drivers and driver work arounds and begging for advice from snotty a$$hats who dont know the first thing about computers but make themselves feel better by having an attitude. kinda like letsrun and running.

I can understand your sentiments here, but, firstly, Linux isn't nearly as difficult to get set up as you make it sound, at least usually (it can be all that, and worse, sometimes). Most of the time nowadays you can get it to just work. Problems can arise if you have cutting edge components, but I mean, like, the absolute latest released components and peripherals. It's more likely, though, that someone on the cutting edge of this stuff knows what they are doing and has the ability to deal with any issues.

Secondly, all of what you wrote depends very much on the distribution/version one tries. Some distros have their share of snotty people, but that is rare in my opinion, and one must also remember that what comes across as snotty is often not so in reality. The worst part of going to certain forums for help with Linux is that many very knowledgeable people, genuinely trying to be helpful, don't know that people don't get their "tech-talk". It is hard to know how far one has to bow to a less knowledgeable person, and often people don't come close to bowing enough, which can come across as snotty sometimes.

Also, every distro is/can be worlds apart in terms of ease of use and setup. I'm using Gentoo, for example, and setup would be a nightmare for anyone not already well versed in Linux (I wasn't/am not still), or not willing to delve into the instructions and learn how to do it (I was willing). On the other side of the planet, there are distros (like Ubuntu and many, many more) that will blow your mind in ease of setup. On the ease of use side, those that are easy to set up are generally going to be very easy to use. Those that are not are as easy or hard to use as you make them.

Thirdly, to say that those "snotty" people don't know the first things about computers is pretty ignorant. Some people who know about computers are snotty. Some people who know about computers are not snotty. Some runners are snotty. Some runners are not snotty. Can't you think of a good runner, but they are still snotty, prideful, and look down their nose at the whole world around them? Snotty has nothing to do with knowledge, although it is more often the case that one who is knowledgeable about something becomes snotty (prideful) concerning that thing. The key to not becoming prideful is to keep looking further up the road and know that there are still many more that are better than you, and you haven't "arrived" yet; like I always do with running. Who cares that I finish a marathon in the top half percent of all the runners? I still got beat by a 100 people or so!

Virtually every supercomputer, server, PC, smart phone, game console, cable/satellite/ADL, Video Box, Cell Tower, controllers atop utility/telephone poles, walkie talkies, Digital / Video Camcorder, GPS, computing device is a collection of Unix Systems. Your Mac, iPhone, iPad, PC are all Unix Systems underneath. Nearly all ECAD software to design chips, PCBs, ID, CAD, etc. are R&D'd and sold primarily on Unix (not Linux) computers. The graphics chips, WiFi Chip, 3G, 4G, Bridge, Hard Drive, DVD drive, USB Bridge, Cable Modem, ADSL Modem, etc. in your computer is running Unix now. Some simple device don't run Unix, only a little round-robin OS, like your BIOS and boot up diags, keyboard debounce, CF-to-USB card reader chip, etc.

Mac Attack wrote:

Computer Guru is a troll.

Really? Apparently, you are pledging your loyalty to much more mature, articulate souls like this one:

Win Puke 7 wrote:

Win Puke 7 ? What a P.O.S. Microshit...

Mac Attack wrote:

Vista is (Computer Guru's) example of the best software ever developed.

Forgive me, but my memory is bit spotty. I don't recall drowning in my own hyperbole like that, so if you could please post a hyperlink to the thread where I made that claim, I would certainly appreciate it.