Dam, I just realised that I had tacked some of his high school training on the end of that 12 week block, so there you go. JR (not the JR, just JR)
Dam, I just realised that I had tacked some of his high school training on the end of that 12 week block, so there you go. JR (not the JR, just JR)
Another thread that's worth bumping occasionally...
Though Ryun did an enormous volume of interval work at certain periods during the year, he also got quite a lot of mileage at other times (and, except for light weeks leading to championships, Ryun's total mileage including morning runs, etc., tended to stay high even during interval phases).
Timmons was probably influenced by Lydiard--Ryun also did some hill bounding IIRC--though Timmons's background as a swimming coach was a major influence on his track coaching.
Crow's Flight Marathon. What was it about?
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So was that really Gerry Lindgren responding on the first page?
yep, he visits/visited letsrun quite a lot. Just because he runs 200mpw dont mean he gets some forum time!
You guys obviously don't know what you're talking about. You guys are such fake fans. Don't listen to a single word these lowlives say, stallion. You're better than that. These people wouldn't know a marathon from a half-marathon. I'm sure they're having problems in their lives where they feel the need to preach their training agenda onto an innocent like you. Check your privilege.
COACH TIMMONS!! A notorious name from the past. Yes, 40 x 440 and more.
Gerry, I remember reading that you once did a 240 mile week in high school. Is there a day from that week that stands out? How did that day go?.......In any case, thanks for the memories. Amazed by your achievements, both you and Ryun burned brightly in my youthful imagination.
Gerry Lindgren wrote:
Daniels and Lydiard were not even THERE yet. Ryun predates them both. His coach set up a series of clocks every 55 yards around the track. Ryun trained his butt off on intervals plus long runs. He hated those long runs; complained to coach Timons about them all the time. Coach Timons told him that if he wanted to be the first high school boy under 4 minutes he had to pay the price.
I met Ryun indoors in San Francisco in a two mile race. Before the race I was talking with him and he told me his goal was to break 4 minutes. I thought the kid was NUTS! No high school boy could run that fast. But it was I who was wrong. The next spring I ran 4:01.5 and then I decided 4 minutes was possible. Why didn't I go for that goal? Next spring Ryun got it easily!
Bumping to marvel at training but also wonder how this is sustainable. Even for talent like Ryun, this is day after day of intervals plus 100 mpw volume. Anyone know if intervals were used kind of Igloi style where some are "easy-swing" or strides?
MoVB
Hound of Baskerville wrote:
I remember reading that Ryun used to routinely run 110 miles per week in high school, but I don't know if that was just in the muggy Kansas summer or what. But I specifically recall that number.
I specifically remember that number too. It may have been summer mileage. I had a buddy who tried it, only to promptly get injured. Most of us ran half as much. But I was never getting close to 3:51 no matter how I trained.
Merchant of Venice Beach wrote:
Bumping to marvel at training but also wonder how this is sustainable. Even for talent like Ryun, this is day after day of intervals plus 100 mpw volume. Anyone know if intervals were used kind of Igloi style where some are "easy-swing" or strides?
MoVB
Some of them were more like tempo level (things like 12*800 in 2:30) and some of the short stuff(100/150s) are just strides BUT a lot of people will argue it was not sustainable.
But there are occasionally other elites that post crazy weeks especially in the final phases before comp. Lydiard is famous for the mega mileage but when you get to the sharpening phases you can be hitting the track 5 days per week. But it is one thing to do it for say 6 weeks. It is another to try and do like 26 weeks of it.
JR doing low key Threshold reps way before Jakob.
T.L. the stallion wrote:
did he follow a daniels or lydiard program, or did he do something completely different?
Find a copy of “The Jim Ryun Story”. Prepare to be amazed.
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