He's a Blood, not a Crip, and never really distanced himself from them. I've seen photos of him when he was LAPD in a red suit hangin' with other known Bloods. I also don't think he knows a damn thing about the 800 except that he was fast in it. As for the hero thing, I'd bet he's more of an afterthought in Eugene.
Couple thoughts.
Was 2-Pac a blood?
This guy may have a hit on him already, I doubt any college coach really wants that around. You imagine hayward field getting blasted up?
Too bad he couldn't have squeaked out a little earlier, UCLA was looking for a coach and they had to settle with Jhonny Gray.
Lastly, this would have to be one of the highest probably PED user in the US for a middle distance guy. Flojos ex, 1:43 20+ years ago and it's still #3 all time U.S.? Developed his excellent endurance on the lovely trails and high alititude on south central L.A. Ohh, and a corrupt cop, bank robber & gangbanger.
Bear of Bad News wrote:
Why does serving a prison sentence constitute "paying a debt to society?" I hear this all the time, but have never quite understood it. Paying a debt implies a transfer. .
Mack still has the $750k he got from the bank, and even boasts that it will be worth $1.5 million when he gets out,
He hasn't re-payed any debt.
The jury is still out on the Biggies Smalls murder. Hopefully his debt to Biggies mother is collected in the court of the streets.
[quote]douglas burke wrote:
david mack is about 48-49 years old, and he can no longer be a policeman at least in california based on law, but what he does have is great knowledge of the 800 meters as he had excellent training during his career, and he knows race tactics of the 800, so mack could definetely help the kids at oregon become better 800 runners, and since he was a hero in eugene while in college, this would be a good oppurtunity for the school to help a former student athlete who has had some tough situations in life quote]
Haha, this is great, total asset, I can see it now:
Vin: Well Joe (1:51/4:03 high school prospect) this is our assistant coach David Mack, he'll be one of your primary coaches at the mid distance. He was a 1:43 runner himself and still #3 on the U.S. all time list!
Joe: Ohh, are you the guy who took out Biggie Smalls and was a blood while an LA PD cop and robbed a bank for $700,000?
David: Well, yes and no. I'm still saying no to some of that stuff.
Joe: Cool! It's amazing you ran 1:43! It's also amazing your ex girlfriend blew the world away. I'm not sure why some people want to think drugs.
holy wow wrote:
Lastly, this would have to be one of the highest probably PED user in the US for a middle distance guy. Flojos ex, 1:43 20+ years ago and it's still #3 all time U.S.? Developed his excellent endurance on the lovely trails and high alititude on south central L.A. Ohh, and a corrupt cop, bank robber & gangbanger.
All the 800 records are old you jagaloon. He dated Flojo in high school and was too poor to afford drugs. Altitude has jack shit to do with becoming a great 800 runner, just ask Johnny gray. And he was corrupt and a bank runner because he wanted to make money, this doesn't happen spending money on PEDS you f***ing jagaloon.
Burke, keep in mind that virtually no state institution of higher learning will hire anyone with a felony record - particularly one for which they served such a prison sentence. University of Florida won't even hire someone with a felony conviction to clean toilets!
trotty moore wrote:
holy wow wrote:Lastly, this would have to be one of the highest probably PED user in the US for a middle distance guy. Flojos ex, 1:43 20+ years ago and it's still #3 all time U.S.? Developed his excellent endurance on the lovely trails and high alititude on south central L.A. Ohh, and a corrupt cop, bank robber & gangbanger.
All the 800 records are old you jagaloon. He dated Flojo in high school and was too poor to afford drugs. Altitude has jack shit to do with becoming a great 800 runner, just ask Johnny gray. And he was corrupt and a bank runner because he wanted to make money, this doesn't happen spending money on PEDS you f***ing jagaloon.
I think some of that went over you. Steroids were rampant in the mid-late 80's. SMTC, are you fugging kidding?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Monica_Track_ClubYou are one ignorant puppy if you don't know this. You think a person of those moral standards is going to say no to PEDS? You my ser are the jagaloon.
I literally never knew that guy was an elite runner. I always saw his pic as the corrupt officer in the B.I.G. case who they didn't ever get enough info from.
That's crazy, learn something new every day. He was a blood!
people need to stop quoting wikipedia on letsrun.
if you want a TRUE fact that'll blow your mind, mack was the best man at johnny gray's wedding.
you can look at gray and mack as foils of one another. johnny took the high road and fortunately it paid off for him.
UncleB wrote:
[quote]iflyboats wrote:
From Wikipedia
While in prison, Mack has severed his ties with the LAPD and has become an avowed member of the Bloods street gang.
Damn. Like going from the Hell's Angels to the
boyscouts
...it's funny because it's true!
Chances are he will be right back in jail within a year.
douglas burke wrote:
regardless of what crimes he did, the fact is he has served his sentence, and having paid his debt to society he should be able to have a chance to live his life as anyone else does.
wether you think his sentence was too much or not enough, he has served the sentence he was given, by a judge who is supposedly very knowledgeable in how much of a penalty/time a person should get depending on the crime.
david mack is about 48-49 years old, and he can no longer be a policeman at least in california based on law, but what he does have is great knowledge of the 800 meters as he had excellent training during his career, and he knows race tactics of the 800, so mack could definetely help the kids at oregon become better 800 runners, and since he was a hero in eugene while in college, this would be a good oppurtunity for the school to help a former student athlete who has had some tough situations in life, (many of his own doing, but that is besides the point, he could use a helping hand now).
yeah i say hopefully, he gets himself on the right track (pun intended) and stays away from crime and as a fan i hope, his knowledge is used to create better 800 runners.
Do you believe in Unicorns, too????
iflyboats wrote:
From Wikipedia
Mack has refused to cooperate with police, and has bragged to fellow prisoners that his $700,000 bank score is invested in such a way that it will double in value by the time he concludes his 14 year sentence.
Mack was released on May 14, 2010.[10]
Gotta love that 5.1% interest rate! The rest of us poor suckers had money invested in various funds or markets double our money in more like 7 typical years. Talk about crime doesn't pay.
Tony the Tiger wrote:
iflyboats wrote:From Wikipedia
Mack has refused to cooperate with police, and has bragged to fellow prisoners that his $700,000 bank score is invested in such a way that it will double in value by the time he concludes his 14 year sentence.
Mack was released on May 14, 2010.[10]
Gotta love that 5.1% interest rate! The rest of us poor suckers had money invested in various funds or markets double our money in more like 7 typical years. Talk about crime doesn't pay.
Do you believe everything you read??????
trotty moore wrote:
Bear of Bad News wrote:Why does serving a prison sentence constitute "paying a debt to society?" I hear this all the time, but have never quite understood it. Paying a debt implies a transfer. It implies that the debtor is giving something up while the party to whom the debt is owed is gaining an equal sum. When I pay the debt that I owe my friend for buying my lunch last week, My $10 loss is accompanied by a $10 gain for him. This is what paying a debt is.
When you serve a prison sentence, no one is gaining an amount equal to your "payment." You lose some number of years of your life, but this doesn't result in any gain for anyone else. Why, then, is serving time constantly called "paying a debt to society?" You are enduring a punishment, not paying a debt.
There is the gain of a criminal not on the streets you jagaloon.
Yep, and all for the meager price tag of roughly $30,000 per year for the taxpayer. He sure paid his debt alright. Add to this the 10 million low-skilled illegal immigrants in California alone that multiply exponentially, the high taxes that are forcing an exodus of business, the refusal to drill for more oil, and the acquiescing to the bloated union and state pension plans that are overpromised, and we wonder why that state is bankrupt? Greece could teach California one word: AUSTERITY. It's coming...
RunningAntelope wrote:
the refusal to drill for more oil
We're doing our best to make sure there's plenty of oil in the gulf!
Wow - should UO hire a gang-member, crooked cop, murderer, who brags about his great wealth from crime?
He sounds like a perfect coach - what do you think Mr. Burke?
douglas burke wrote:
regardless of what crimes he did, the fact is he has served his sentence, and having paid his debt to society he should be able to have a chance to live his life as anyone else does.
wether you think his sentence was too much or not enough, he has served the sentence he was given, by a judge who is supposedly very knowledgeable in how much of a penalty/time a person should get depending on the crime.
david mack is about 48-49 years old, and he can no longer be a policeman at least in california based on law, but what he does have is great knowledge of the 800 meters as he had excellent training during his career, and he knows race tactics of the 800, so mack could definetely help the kids at oregon become better 800 runners, and since he was a hero in eugene while in college, this would be a good oppurtunity for the school to help a former student athlete who has had some tough situations in life, (many of his own doing, but that is besides the point, he could use a helping hand now).
yeah i say hopefully, he gets himself on the right track (pun intended) and stays away from crime and as a fan i hope, his knowledge is used to create better 800 runners.
Mack was no hero at Oregon. I lived in an apartment next to a girl in Eugene that Mack, hurdler Don Ward and their crew would hang out all night and drink beer and smoke weed-the smoke was billowing out the open windows. Mack immediately joined a gang in prison. Is this your idea of "rehabilitation?"
No, there are good memories of him at Oregon. In a way he was more exciting than Cruz if for no other reason than that Cruz was so dominant as to be almost boring. But Mack had a monster kick that could bring the house down. Although its probably true he wasn't exactly the smartest racer in the world. He is probably as much an afterthought for old Hayward field fans as OJ Simpson is an afterthought to USC fans. Read up on him on Wiki. Probably has an unprecedented combination of honors and stains on his record for an American. He holds a sub 1:44 time for the 800M. Has a medal from the LAPD for heroism in the line of duty. He is a crook and gangmember. On top of all that he may very well be a millionaire.
Ghost of Ashenfelter wrote:
He's a Blood, not a Crip, and never really distanced himself from them. I've seen photos of him when he was LAPD in a red suit hangin' with other known Bloods. I also don't think he knows a damn thing about the 800 except that he was fast in it. As for the hero thing, I'd bet he's more of an afterthought in Eugene.
It's so strange when people bump these years old threads and respond like the conversation is still going on.