Andrews OOWWWWNNSSSS Wheating

in no way does robby andrews own wheating - just wait till they go head to head in another 800 meters - wheating will put him down

Wheating wins races because of his team (or their lead, anyway).

Andrews wins when there is something on the line.

idunnoaboutyou, but I know exactly who I would pick on my team.

And as for Wheating and the mile, commonnn......... I don't think Andrews is giving any excuses right now. Wheating may be giving excuses to his teammates, people who were counting on him ftw, passers-by, Eugene, whomever, but I'm the kind of guy who likes the kind of guy who doesn't need to give excuses, or have others do it for him, after a championship race.

No, Wheating is better than Andrews. It just so happens that a totally fresh Andrews has raced Wheating twice and got to the line first in those two races. In the first, no one can argue that Wheating wasn't exhausted from a series of earlier races that led his team to the National Indoor Championship. Andrews was totally fresh and surprised Wheating. In the second race, again a totally fresh Andrews met a not race-fit Wheating (he has had a short training season after is injury) who had just travelled several thousand miles cross country and raced the day before. They ran the same time, 1:48.8, but Andrews happened to be ahead when he got his baton. Fact is, Wheating actually closed the gap from start to finish, so young Mr Andrews has the wheel, but he owns no one.

We are all waiting for NCAA's in Eugene. It will be so sweet when Andrews gets it handed to him by half the field of real 800 meter racers.

I love reading all the posts from oregon fans scrambling to make sense of it all, effing hilarious! in ncaas Andrews suposedly tricked and stole the race. At Penn Andrews won because wheating was tired. Scramble, think of excuses, cry cry while everybody laughs at it all.

Here is the deal: Wheating is a great runner and a great person and has an absurd PR in the 800. Andrews is a racer. Period, he is a racer. Just like Manzano at Texas, Andrews knows how to race and will beat you. As we've seen, the racer Andrews is 2-0 against the guy with a good PR.

I did not know oregon green was for jealousy - robby is for real - start thinking of your excuses for the outdoor champs

Wheating should stop running like a pussy if he doesnt want to have Andrews run him down and make him squeal again.

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55/53 split: set it up perfectly by dogging his first lap. VIG over VIN!

That's some dodgy math there...

As many have pointed out Wheating is not really running to his potential. It is clear that Andrews has gotten Wheating 2X beating him at his own game, but with that said it was indoor nats and Penn both times Wheating was coming back from a double. In a faster paced race I don't think Andrews is even in contention (yet)...but we shall see. It seems like Wheating would get it that in college races he can run hard and maybe only 1-2 guys could even hang with him. So it is really curious as to why he doesn't just make it a more honest race. In any case, when Outdoor nationals and then US titles, World Champ spots, and Olympic spots are on the line lets wait and see who owns who? My suspicion is that Wheating has more potential at 800/1500 and when the paces are faster as they usually are at the BIG BOY races (yes...NCAAs is still not professional) then we will get a more candid view of who can really turn it on at the end of a race. But in fairness to Andrews he will have 2-3 more years of more training and aerobic development, so that needs to be factored in. In any case, it does make for good racing and drama.

Bottom line: Wheating can run 1:45 and should have blown away those guys. In an open 800 someone willl take it out fast, Wheating will hang on and Andrews probably will not (this year). Wheating needs to run smarter on relays.

We know that Andrews "owns" (awfully strong considering how close the races have been) Wheating off of a slow pace. Until Wheating wises up and tries a different strategy we'll never know who the better runner is. Just my opinion, but I don't think Andrew's wins off a 52 first lap, but until Wheating makes him run the first lap, we'll never know. Andrews is the only guy I'd bet to outkick Wheating when the races goes out in 55. I'm an Oregon fan, and I think there is some truth in the reasons people are listing why Andrews won, but at some point the result is what matters until you change the result.

and faster

I hear you but Wheating has run his fast times getting towed...not leading. Wheating's ability cannot be questioned; his times cannot be questioned. What CAN be questioned is his versatility. He rarely leads in 800's; he always waits & kicks.

I realize that Andrews is currently the same but he is a true frosh...not an Olympian. We'll see...

The race I saw today makes Wheating's job very hard in the weeks to come.

Andrews beat Wheating at NCAA's Indoor.

Andrews BROKE Wheating at Penn today.

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Under that logic, Michigan state would own UNC in basketball.

Michigan State made it to the final 4 this year, did UNC even make it to the final 4 of the NIT?

Not that I disagree with you, quite the opposite, but saying maybe a better example would serve you...

Andrews is a true freshman who crushed Alan Webb's high school record in the 1k and has already won an individual NCAA title at 800m over a 1:45 Olympian and beaten Wheating again for the Penn Relays 4x800m title. These races aren't flukes. That is a major, major talent, and a great racer, unlike Wheating. That's not to take away Wheating's talent or potential, but Andrews's batting average is a lot higher right now.

Agreed, and Andrews actually has a coach that can coach, not just a superstar recruiter.

Wheating is a great runner with a huge upside, but he has developed a troubling tendency to run a close second in major races. Against Symmonds this was understandable, against Hernandez perhaps justifiable, but against Andrews it is downright frustrating. The common denominator is Vig, who seems to have Wheating pretty well sussed.

wheating seems to only know one strategy in the 800 and that is to sit and kick. the problem has been the timing of it. he waits too long or gets in a bad position tactically and someone else cleans up the scraps. he is not a natural front runner and i can't see him beating andrews using that tactic. andrews is a natural when it comes to timing the kick, he strikes at just the right time. i think at ncaa's wheating will need a rabbit to win. if no one goes out hard he is a sitting duck again for andrews.

The amazing this is that Andrews did this all while being able to block the perfection of Foxfield from his mind.

Best plot at Foxfield 2 years in a row. Juice has the trophy to prove it.

LOL, who cares about Bill Cosby relays anyways. Get your mouths off Andrews 4 inch pecker.