Do any videos exist of Henry Rono?

"Impetuous" comes to mind, watching some of the effort/pacing in those videos. Like a big kid playing with an (powerful) toy.

formerfastguy wrote:

Any results for this race? Im guessin it was about 1977?

1978 NCAA

1. 8:12.39 Henry Rono Washington State University

2. 8:24.0 James Munyala University of Texas at El Paso

3. 8:30.0 Henry Marsh Brigham Young University

4. 8:30.5 Hillary Tuwei University of Richmond

5. 8:33.4 Don Clary University of Oregon

6. 8:33.6 Harrison Koroso University of New Mexico

7. 8:36.2 Samuel James University of Tennessee, Knoxville

8. 8:36.7 Randy Jackson University of Wisconsin, Madison

9. 8:40.6 Bruce Bickford Northeastern University

10. 8:41.2 Ed Ahlmeyer University of California, Irvine

11. 8:49.3 Gordon Weaver University of Minnesota, Twin Cities

12. 8:54.4 Pat Weiler Aquinas College

Thanks very much. 1st awesome rating.

he does chop his steps sometimes, but otherwise is outstanding.

1) 1978 NCAA Steeplechase 8:12 Eugene Orgeon, Commonwealth 3000m steeplechase Edmonton Alberta

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/9/yjlG7iFR3vA

2) 1978 Commonwealth Steeplechase, 5000m qualifying

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/7/3uQu3T1VLq8

3) 1978 Commonwealth 5000m final (bad audio) Rono 13:23 sprinting straights/jogging turns, then spring turns/jogging straights

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/6/CbSBKMHZk08

4) 1978 Commonwealth 5000 sprinting straights/jogging turns, then spring turns/jogging straights

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/5/VihXZanaRDU

5) 1978 Commonwealth 5000 sprinting

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/4/2Ue2xwdqJ-M

6) Unknown 10k . 1979 Kenyan Nationals

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/3/gecLMIpYCaY

7) 1979 Kenyan Nationals. 1981 Bruxelles 10000 27:40

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/2/OnLhauAL_PY

8)

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/1/vrbs1SL7sOQ

9) Rono McLeod 13:35 on Grass /Rono McLeod Jones 13:12 London 1981

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/0/zHQVbYk1GTU

10) Rono McLeod Jones 13:12 London 1981

http://www.youtube.com/user/pmcgato61#p/u/8/ItZdtzJlkSU

1981

27:40.78 SB (5) 1 Bruxelles 28 Aug

13:12.15 1 Koblenz 26 Aug

13:12.47 3 Rieti 9 Sep

13:12.34 1 London 11 Sep

13:06.20 WR PB (1) 1 Knarvik 13 Sep

Falcon Fast wrote:

"Impetuous" comes to mind, watching some of the effort/pacing in those videos. Like a big kid playing with an (powerful) toy.

Now you have a visual to associate with what I wrote about Henry.

“Rono had this special way of cocking his head back, he'd lean forward, push his chest way out, pump his arms -- and whooosh -- it looked like he had his own personal wind carrying him down the track.”

All good stuff!!

malmo,

Thanks for the descriptions and original videos. I edited the descriptions on youtube, so maybe more people searching can find it.

Great effort Mcgato. It's a shame that there is no video record of Henry's World Records, or of the qualifying round at the 1978 NCAA when he ran 13:21 to set the NCAA record, an hour after setting the NCAA record in the steeplechase heats (8:18).

Check out the splits.

The Splits (all splits 440 yards)

1:05 (65)

2:06 (61)

3:05 (59)

4:08 (63)

5:15 (67)

6:17 (62)

7:27 (70)

8:33 (66)

9:41 (68)

10:50 (69)

11:55 (65)

12:56 (61)

13:21.79

Finish (58.3, 2:02.9, 4:18.2)

Heat 2

1 13:21.79 (NCAA meet record) Henry Rono WSU

2 13:53.97 Joshua Kimeto

3 14:05.41 Joseph Nzau Wyoming

4 14:05.74 Robert Snyder Penn State

5 14:11.36 Gary Hoftetter North Carolina

6 14:11.7 Gerry Deegan Providence

7 14:13.4 Jim Schankel Cal Poly SLO

8 14:14.5 Tom Wysocki Nevada-Reno

9 14:20 Bill McChesney Oregon

10 14:21 Eric Lathrop Houston

11 14:28 Manfred Kohrs Texas AM

12 14:30 Dale Kramer Carelton College

13 14:33 Bill McGrath Cleveland State

14 14:33 Tom Marino Southern Methodist

15 14:34 Steve Placescia Minnesota

16 14:35 Michael Sawyer So. Illinois

17 14:56 Jim Flynn Villanova

18 14:57 Dave Fulton Oregon State

19 15:00 Dave Cornwell Maryland

Malmo,

Can you kindly provide the splits for Henry's 7'32.1WR as I'm pretty sure I've found the best method for evening out uneven splits & it'd be of interest to see how close he couda got to 7'30 in an ideal run race that day.

Method here ( shoud be quite easy to do on a spreadsheet, which I know you are skilled at ) :

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3415815&page=6

or simpler :

http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?p=633152#p633152

( it boils down to

distance * speed^3 )

3:49.5 1500

4:04.5 1600

5:04.5 2000 (60.0)

6:04.5 2400 (60.0)

7:03.5 2800 (59.0)

7:32.1 3000 (28.6)

3:49.5/3:42.6

2:34.0/2:30.5/2:27.6

His 10,000m WR in front of 500 spectators.

2:47.5 1000

13:48.2 5000

22:02.1 8000

27:22.5 10000

13:48.2/13:34.3

last 1000m 2:37.0

last 400m 57.0

Spectators for his 5000 WR in Berkeley = 2000

Spectators for Steeplechase WR in Seattle = 200

Spectators for 10000 WR in Vienna = 500

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3456489&page=1#ixzz0iRsRWrXh

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Great stats !

Now, from basic statistical theory, the more splits used, the more variability & therefore quicker flattened out time.

For the 3k

7'32.1 -> 3000 * ( 3000/452.1 )^3 = 876559 u

a) 2 splits of 3'49.5/3'42.6 ->

1500 * ( 1500/229.5 )^3 +

1500 * ( 1500/222.6 )^3 = 877784 u

->7'31.5

b) 3 splits of 2'34.0/2'30.5/2'27.6 ->

1000 * ( 1000/154.0 )^3 +

1000 * ( 1000/150.5 )^3 +

1000 * ( 1000/147.6 )^3 = 878140 u

->7'31.3

c) 6 splits at various points of 3'49.5/15.0/60.0/60.0/59.0/28.6 ->

1500 * ( 1500/229.5 )^3 +

100 * ( 100/15.0 )^3 +

2 * (400 * ( 400/60.0 )^3) +

400 * ( 400/59.0 )^3 +

200 * ( 200/28.6 )^3 = 878516 u

->7'31.1

not overly generous, but worth about 1s quicker

For his 10k

27'22.5 -> 10000 * ( 10000/1642.5 )^3 = 2256752 u

a) 13'48.2/13'34.3 ->

5000 * ( 5000/828.2 )^3 +

5000 * ( 5000/814.3 )^3 = 2257721 u

->27'21.8

not generous

b) 2'47.5/11'00.7/8'13.9/2'43.4/1'40/57.0 ->

2269767 u

->27'13.1

latter answer is much better ( you really need to chase the variability !? ) - so couda gone close to 27'10 that day

malmo wrote:

I actually have a DVD of about 60 minutes of his races. I have copies so if someone is skilled enough at ripping them to a format for youtube uploads I could send a copy. Alternatively, someone who is really on top of it could direct me to the best software for doing this and I'd do it myself.

Any help?

Great job Malmo!!!

Now Letsrun posters can see what we have been writing about the last year and stop doubting us. Now they can see the true power of the man. Posters must remember that the runners he is running against were the best in the world at the time. In that Common Wealth 5k he destroys Brendan Foster. Earlier that year Foster had run a 27:30 10k, second fastest 10k of all-time, and the owner of a 13:14 5k. Rono was truly the greatest in 1978.

And we were denied the best of Henry Rono. In January of 1980 a very fit Rono went to Australia and ran a 27:31 10k all by himself. I remember reading that this time was off base running only and that great things were to come at the Moscow Olympics. Then a runner's(s) dream was smashed. The 1980 Olympic Boycott. Sadly to say Henry Rono was never quite the same runner again.

If no boycott, Rono, Yifter (1980 Olymic 10k champ) and young 27:29 American Craig Virgin on that starting line. Almost 30-years later and I still say F@#$#$$g politics.

Malmo and Mcgato, THANK YOU! What a gift to watch a gift.

oldoldrunner wrote:In January of 1980 a very fit Rono went to Australia and ran a 27:31 10k all by himself. I remember reading that this time was off base running only and that great things were to come at the Moscow Olympics

27:31.68 Henry Rono KEN 12.02.52 1 Melbourne 06.02.1980

a solo 27'31 woud be ~1s/lap quicker with a wabbit

with wabbit to 1/2 way, you are looking at ~ 27'19WR, off base training, awaiting an august peak !!!

Great stuff! Thanks again Malmo and McGato for your efforts-appreciated.