Dude,
priorities change... you need to move on.
So...you train your but off for 3 years and run <2.20?
where does that leave you? 3 years behind the others and no where near qualifying...
Those kenyans don't train harder than you..they are just better. Its not a level playing field.
marry a rich girl and run- WORKING IS FOR THE LOWER CLASSES
let go its over... wrote:
Dude,
priorities change... you need to move on.
So...you train your but off for 3 years and run <2.20?
where does that leave you? 3 years behind the others and no where near qualifying...
Those kenyans don't train harder than you..they are just better. Its not a level playing field.
You sound like a loser that wants company. Don't listen to this guy.
Genuinely curious, where are you living Neliah?
I live on the East Coast...what made you ask?
(1) Do not make a decision just because she wants it. It has to be your decision, either way. This sounds selfish, but at this point you're not married now. So it has to be, otherwise it'll alway nag at you.
(2) Try to also work on your career... It could be a part time "real" job... Or go for your CPA though the cheap (but very good & common) JC program... Learn web design... Take a pre-req course if you're thinking grad school in the future... Something. It'll help with the woman issue. But it's also a good idea on its own.
(3) Let her know that a couple years could shape the rest of your life, and you want a chance to follow your passion (with her). If it doesn't work and you give it your best, then trust me: You'll still be glad you tried. But don't just leave everything else dead in the water (see #2). Though I was working, I damaged my achilles badly "going for it". I'm fine now, after a long road. But I never regretted it. I'm going for it now, with cage fighting... and love it.
(4) Maybe speak of say, Clint Verran, who wasn't too much different than you, and made it work great. Combine this with #2, when talking with her. But I do think you can't just ignore the career part. Even Clint got his own physical therapy business during his successful career.
Quit running NOW. Marry your girl. Have a kid or 2 in the next 2 years. Go to a job you hate in your hometown there where she and your parents can lead you around by the nose and (of course you will), put on 20 quick pounds. Dream over.
why would i want company?
I no longer run, living with a great girlfriend, heaps of friends that i now actually have time to see, can go out for beers on a friday night? have a great job that i actually like and pays awesome...and i'm not constantly tired.
Once you stop running you realize how much more to life there is..running keeps you in a isolated little shell of living to run...
Running is not that rewarding when you think about it.. thinking about how you train all year long and you might run 7 or 8 races...barring marathon that go for less that 30 minutes...
let go its over... wrote:
why would i want company?
I no longer run, living with a great girlfriend, heaps of friends that i now actually have time to see, can go out for beers on a friday night? have a great job that i actually like and pays awesome...and i'm not constantly tired.
Once you stop running you realize how much more to life there is..running keeps you in a isolated little shell of living to run...
Running is not that rewarding when you think about it.. thinking about how you train all year long and you might run 7 or 8 races...barring marathon that go for less that 30 minutes...
Spoken like a true has-been. To use a favorite of high-school t-shirts everywhere, "If you don't already understand, you never will."
let go its over... wrote:
...Once you stop running you realize how much more to life there is..running keeps you in a isolated little shell of living to run...
Running is not that rewarding when you think about it.. thinking about how you train all year long and you might run 7 or 8 races...barring marathon that go for less that 30 minutes...
I know what you're saying, and it sounds like everything's working out great for you. But almost nothing alone is rewarding. It doesn't sound like you're just doing one thing. That's why I advised the OP to still keep his other areas in order, regardless of his choice. During great running careers, Ryan (and wife) are traveling around the world helping others. Clint Verran started his own business. IMO, a huge key in life is following through with your interests, while keeping balance in life. Heck, H.Geb has been running a business the past few years.
This is letrun not letsjointheratrace
If you don't give it a shot, you will always regret it. Its you life do what you want to do. You will only resent your girlfriend later if you don't give it a shot
I would first concentrate on getting into shape for the 10km and 1/2 then take that speed when you step up to the marathon
I knew a guy Fitzy a 5km runner worked in a factory training once a day. He had a 1500 best of 3.51. Anyway he had just spent his night in his car having got hammered in a night club. He does 1:53.2* in an 800m then line up an hr later for a 1500. He had a battle with another runner all the way and leaned for a 3:47.1 win*. Still running no more than 50 miles per week (I know I was training with him on 1/2 his sessions),went for the steeplechase and ran 7:44
He was about 22, I spoke to his dad who was coaching him about Fitzy running full time and he said how's he going to support himself + wife & kid - fair point
The guy who Fitzy beat in that 1500 - Jon Brown. Professional runner 4th twice in the Olympics - and Fitsy wasn't a 1500 runner he was a distance guy.
You don't have a wife and kid take you chance to live the dream while you are still young. Over here loads of young people take a year of to go travelling. You can afford a couple of years to chase your dream
1500m and 800m 1989*
http://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=190
http://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=3346
Go for it buddy.
You have only one shot to see what you're made of. However, I DO AGREE that you can definitely have a job while training.
If you were trying to be an 800-5k runner, I would say that would be a tough time, because track workouts and such take a lot longer than marathon training.
However, training for the marathon (especially when you do double days, which are essential) shouldn't be too difficult while having a job.
Just have faith in yourself and give it a shot.
I will never understand this generation.
In the 1980s, there were scores of guys, guys you never heard of, who ran sub-2:20 while holding down a full time job, making a house payment, and maybe even with a kid at home. Today, you guys can't even hold down a job and must live at home to even think about approaching the same goal. It's pathetic. Truly pathetic.
Unless you are the laziest bum on the planet, it should be absolutely no problem to hold down a job and train. You work 8 hours a day. You sleep 8 hours a day. A couple hours getting ready for work and/or commuting. That still leaves 6 available hours from which to find maybe 2 hours you could train -- and that doesn't factor in having your weekends to yourself.
Well said.
I am all for chasing dreams and living outside society's norms, but what kind of parents let their 25 year old freeload off them like this? Don't get me wrong, I would always step in to help if my kid is truly in need, but my kid is going to have to fend for himself in the world.
I really question your motivation if you couldn't figure out how to train your ass off and work 45 hr/wk at the same time. Is this about running, or is this about you wanting to completely shirk any responsibility to provide for yourself?
Here's an idea: Find 3-4 like-minded runners. Rent some craphole apartment. Share rooms to make it cheaper. Work part time jobs. Focus on training as hard (but smart) as you can and on spending as little money as possible. Consider doing this somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper, as rent will be your primary outlay. This gives you training partners, a support group, and a greater sense of purpose than you would have spending your time surfing the internet in your parents basement.
You don't need a 9-5 job to survive, but it's time to man up and take responsibility for yourself. I don't know what your eventual career goals are, but a prospective employer is going to want to know what you did in the gap. If you go with my suggestion, you have an impressive story that shows grit and determination. If you just live in your parents basement, you sound pathetic.
And if this post was just a trolling attempt, kudos.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
went for the steeplechase and ran 7:44
So I take it he was busted for PEDs?
Really?
Right there with you wrote:
track workouts and such take a lot longer than marathon training.
The interest in seeing you have an s.o. who understands and supports your dreams. Alas, too far away from me. Best wishes, all the same!
Neliah2507 wrote:
I live on the East Coast...what made you ask?
If you ask this question on a running board then you will get pro-running answers. If you ask this question anywhere else then you will get the opposite reply.
In my opinion, unless you're going to actually have a chance at making the olympic team then don't sacrifice your future, your gf relationship, your family time, your finances, etc just to make the marathon trials. It'll be a big letdown when you realize it doesn't get you any farther in life (unless you have a job interview with a marathon runner, which I'd bet against).
Your girlfriend isn't completely dumb. Start your life man. There is way more to it than living like a college kid and pursuing 2nd rate running dreams. No offense intended at all. But there was a point when I had to wake up also, and realize that there are other dreams and goals worth pursuing in life. I believe everyone should always be evolving and growing. If you wind up 30 yrs old and still doing exactly what you did in college and having the same mindset, then how in the world is that satisfying? There is too much out there that can make a guy happy. Don't settle with running and only running (unless you can make big $ from it).
My opinion - keep your running goals, but don't make it everything. Find a job, go to grad school, have some other goals in life. And if there's still time for running then go for it.