What if Semenya passes the gender test and is declared "entirerly female?"

shes the only "woman" in the race not wearing them

She will go on to a successful career as a female impersonator and make an appearance on Maury Povich.

Are you seriously trying to bring some 26-turned-19-minute 5Ker into this? Translation: you have zero argument.

And I'm not forgetting that she is just 18, if that is even accurate.

Anyone who can't see this is an idiot.

That ain't no woman, baby. That's a man, man!

Flagpole wrote: In high school there was a girl on my team that improved from a 26+ minute 5k as a junior to 19:something as a senior. That's a pretty crazy jump.

But they went from horrible to alright, not good to world class.

It would be similar to a guy running a 1:57 then the next year 1:43 with ease out of nowhere.

Who cares about the age, that is unheard of.

No, it would be equivelant of a guy going from 1:57 to 150 or so. If we are going to cheat, cheat honestly on this.

I think you also have to remember that Semenya looks like she shut it down to avoid running 1:52 and removing all doubt. She does give the impression that she coud eventually run under 1:50 and that just stands out too much.

If she is a hermaphrodite, which appears to be the case, then she should not be eligible to compete at the woman's level for sanctioned competition. It is a clear unfair biological advantage with noted increases in testosterone and overall muscular development. Semenya's chest is overwhelmingly male. Easily compare her chest to top female body builders and you will see that she is not a possessor of a female chest.

She was born and raised in a rural area. Of course her mother will claim she has been raised a girl, and perhaps she has. Caster undoubtedly sees herself as a she, and perhaps "she" is. But sanctioned competition is a different animal than commonality of private parts. If Semenya has extra male chromosomes than she has an unfair advantage.

Watching that 800 final was like watching Usain Bolt's 9.69 100 in Beijing--she could have run faster. It was obvious, and it soo looked like a guy running away from the world-class females. I can run 3:55 for a 1500! If I get gender reassignment, can I go win an Oly medal?

Her principal didn't know "he" was a "she" until Caster went to run with the girls. WTF? But that is what mommy, daddy, and she was led to believe. SA finds an 18 year-old running obscenely fast and they jump on it. No checks, no questions were made. She will be disqualified and it will all be due to inefficient governmental processing...sad, but unfortunately it will be justice. Women should not have to compete against men, or inbetweeners. I am tradmarking the word inbetweeners tonight.

Flagpole is a douche.

You only live once! wrote:

Um, uh, that will mean she is a woman. Class dismissed.

No, it simply proves PC control rules.

It's funny that all the pictures in the UK papers have her stood next to Jenny Meadows on the podium, who's pretty tiny.

It's almost like they're trying to make a point.

Oh wait..

its 2:04 - 1:55 you butt ugly dykes not 2:08

What did Jelimo run two years ago? She pretty much came out of nowhere, too didn't she?

People said Jelimo looked awfully masculine but I confess, I never really saw it. Semenya is a whole nother story.

Just answered my own question about Jelimo. She never ran the 800 until 2008. Did have good times at shorter distances but not out of this world times.

From Wikipedia:

In June 2007 she finished fifth in the 400 metres race at the Kenyan Championships with a time of 55.82 seconds.[5] She kept improving throughout the season, winning the 400 metres gold medal at the African Junior Championships with a finish of 54.93 s and setting a Kenyan national junior record in the 200 m with 24.68 s

Or maybe they want the UK athlete in the picture?

trollism wrote:

It's funny that all the pictures in the UK papers have her stood next to Jenny Meadows on the podium, who's pretty tiny.

It's almost like they're trying to make a point.

Oh wait..

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Just answered my own question about Jelimo. She never ran the 800 until 2008. Did have good times at shorter distances but not out of this world times.

From Wikipedia:

In June 2007 she finished fifth in the 400 metres race at the Kenyan Championships with a time of 55.82 seconds.[5] She kept improving throughout the season, winning the 400 metres gold medal at the African Junior Championships with a finish of 54.93 s and setting a Kenyan national junior record in the 200 m with 24.68 s

so she probably would have run around 2:05 for the 800 in 2007. there is your answer to if a female has ever done this

This has nothing to do with PC. A possible motive of IAAF

would be new WRs in an event where it still stands after 26 years and sparkle some interest.

I'm not sure why you are looking at time improvements to try and figure out who is or isn't a woman. We are talking about an 18-year-old. Improvement is to be expected at that age.