Still Delusional.... wrote:
They have NOT increased funding, there is no commitment to the distance program. Maybe that's the reason 3 or 4 coaches turned down the job....you think.
Do you really have any idea? Are you associated with the program in any way? That's right, I didn't think so.
If Pete Watson has been hired at UNC, how will he do? Can he get done at UNC what he was able to do at Auburn? Will he be able to coach the kind of kids that UNC typically has on their team or will they be able to go get the foreign athletes that he essentially did it with at Auburn? UNC has some pretty stiff admission standards and not many waivers to work with. I am not saying Auburn doesn't have standards but I doubt they are on the same level. He seems like an energetic coach that can talk a good game but is he really an upgrade for their program?
Fear the Turtle. Terps to SHOCK THE WORLD!!!!!
the rumor in Md is that U of Md will hire the high school coach who has been a volunter assitant the last couple of years.
I think hiring the volunteer assistant is the worst thing Maryland could do at this point. They need to find a young coach who can come in and work hard to build the program. They really don't have anywhere to go but up. However, building a program like that in a conference like the ACC is going to take a young, go-getter rather than an older, former high school coach. We'll see if they do the right thing.
They already went that route with Weir.
He was a very successful high school coach and then coached with Centrowitz for 5 yrs at American.
They had like 5 different assistants in 5-6 yrs? Something is wrong. I think its time for a new HEAD Coach
Maryland SHOULD hire the volunteer assistant coach Desmond Dunham (spelling?). This was the dude who brought Eleanor Roosevelt girls to NTN and penn relays wheels and a sweep of the sprint through DMR relays at indoor and outdoor nationals. He's gotta be one of the best coaches in high school history and if he had the head coach position i'm sure could do great things with the terps as well.
What about Bray, the other volunteer?
If Dunham was out of the question, I think bray would be a very good coach. However, that stats dunham has with the ER girls are outstanding.
It's hard to tell what Bray has done/could do...but i've heard he's a great guy
Whoever they bring in I hope they start by recruiting Md talent. I know Md may not be the best state in the nation, but lately Md has produced some decent talent no of which ended up at Md.
My point is that this is the ACC. You have to compete against coaches like Vigilante, Watson, Harvey, Thomas, Henes, Geiger, etc, etc. Sure the ER girls had a lot of success but there is more to college coaching, especially at the ACC level. The most glaring thing about Maryland is that they just lack the talent. Dunham has no college recruiting experience. Maybe he could coach the talent once it's there but first he has to get it on the team. Recruiting at the college level is not easy (particularly when you are talking about recruiting against the names I listed above). Dunham may be a good coach but I still don't think it would be the best thing they could do for the program right now. It seems fairly obvious that Maryland doesn't have the funding to hire somebody like Vig, Watson, or Harvey, but they could still find somebody who's fairly young and has the energy and know how to build Maryland into a factor of some sort in the ACC.
I'm quite sure I know way more than the situation at UNC than you do. It was turned down by more than one coach who said it was a " dead end job". If they were willng to commit the money ,it could be a distance power in the ACC. Keep your head in the sand buddy.
I'm pretty sure you don't have a clue. Unc interviewed one person and that was Watson.yes they talked with todd morgan quite a bit as he is an alum and would have done agreat job but he couldn't make the move work.as for pete, they gave him the title of head cross country coach, which had not been done at unc before. They also promised him a certain amount of scholarship on the men's side and promised him what ever he needed.
He did not leave auburn for a dead end job. Let's see how this first recruiting class looks
All I'm saying is that the atlantic coast is the king to me and many others that live here because it is a great place. I'm not saying that the ACC will dominate the Pac-10 at nationals at all but I am predicting right now that both Virginia and NC State will finish in the top 10 at xc nationals this year on the guys side. AND HELL YES ALL CAPS! I don't think you understand how die hard people are on the east coast about the ACC. Its a huuuge deal here.
Delusional idiot..... wrote:
I'm quite sure I know way more than the situation at UNC than you do. It was turned down by more than one coach who said it was a " dead end job". If they were willng to commit the money ,it could be a distance power in the ACC. Keep your head in the sand buddy.
Haha, I know it better than you do. Todd Morgan turned it down but lets be real, he is just getting going at UF. Not the right time for him. Anyone else who said it was a dead-end job is a complete idiot. Do you think Watson would have taken the job if the resources weren't committed? He's a smart guy. You don't know anything. One thing that I DO know is that you're an idiot. Lets see what you have to say in a few years' time.
The bottom line is, anybody would do a better job than Whittlesey. As long as they've hired someone who recruits well, is energetic, and actually knows how to coach instead of saying they understand physiology while neglecting the basic principles of adaptation, they'll do better. How much better? It remains to be seen.
atlantic coast is king wrote:
All I'm saying is that the atlantic coast is the king to me and many others that live here because it is a great place. I'm not saying that the ACC will dominate the Pac-10 at nationals at all but I am predicting right now that both Virginia and NC State will finish in the top 10 at xc nationals this year on the guys side. AND HELL YES ALL CAPS! I don't think you understand how die hard people are on the east coast about the ACC. Its a huuuge deal here.
NC State will not be in the top 10 at NCAA XC ever again. Geiger is done producing anything/anyone legitimate in Raleigh. They will be decent but not great. He must be close to retiring by now anyway. Isn't it about time to move on to Indiana for a retirement gig i.e. Helmer?
Umm Ryan Hill World Junior Cross 4th place behind the big 3 freshman. Post collegiate Stephen Furst ~13:36 5k this year. John Martinez 8 flat 3k indoors. 2 Freshman sub 14 5kers. I'd say Coach Geiger is still doing his thing.
atlantic coast is king wrote:
Umm Ryan Hill World Junior Cross 4th place behind the big 3 freshman. Post collegiate Stephen Furst ~13:36 5k this year. John Martinez 8 flat 3k indoors. 2 Freshman sub 14 5kers. I'd say Coach Geiger is still doing his thing.
Even Bob Braman has guy going under 8 minutes in the 3k. Come on now ;)
would not do that wrote:
The most glaring thing about Maryland is that they just lack the talent. Dunham has no college recruiting experience. Maybe he could coach the talent once it's there but first he has to get it on the team. Recruiting at the college level is not easy (particularly when you are talking about recruiting against the names I listed above). Dunham may be a good coach but I still don't think it would be the best thing they could do for the program right now. It seems fairly obvious that Maryland doesn't have the funding to hire somebody like Vig, Watson, or Harvey, but they could still find somebody who's fairly young and has the energy and know how to build Maryland into a factor of some sort in the ACC.
Maryland certainly is lacking the talent as they're yet to improve no matter which of the 5 assistant coaches they've had. They used to be the power house of the ACC, and now they're not even the top of the state. UMBC, Navy, maybe even Towson and d3 school Hopkins are better in state now.