I hate that f^cking line, "spend less time on the message boards and more running." I run up to 130m/week and am busting my @ss day in and day out right now and the way I like to relax is by visiting this damn message board because it angers me and motivates me. So, has it ever occurred to people that the time spent on this board is AFTER OR BEFORE WORKING OUT????? Jesus Christ, even Kenyans need down time. I guarantee you if they had the Internet, they'd be on Letsrace.com.
Get a life.
click this, yeah a guy i know who was back from college running with his old hs team took the out on a tempo run. the workout called for 4miles: 6, 536, 536, 512 or something to that effect... they took the first mile out.. 520ish then the boys started to complain. i was just curious, sounded like the exact same situation. anyways, jersey rules. and good luck whippin in those hs boys into shape.
They say that practice makes perfect but thats wrong, perfect practice makes perfect. If you do the first mile of a tempo run to fast(more than about 10 or 15 seconds) than your practice is not perfect. Thats whats wrong with American distance running, that and altitude training.
video games have nothing to do with it, u pussy
ur just a sucky ass coach
The Truth wrote:
England and Ireland are doing even worse than the United States. Under 10k the United Kingdom did not have one distance runner reach the finals in the last World Championships.
Karl Keska. 27:47 in the final. Do your research.
Cypher wrote:
I hate that f^cking line, "spend less time on the message boards and more running." I run up to 130m/week and am busting my @ss day in and day out right now and the way I like to relax is by visiting this damn message board because it angers me and motivates me. So, has it ever occurred to people that the time spent on this board is AFTER OR BEFORE WORKING OUT????? Jesus Christ, even Kenyans need down time. I guarantee you if they had the Internet, they'd be on Letsrace.com.
Get a life.
Cypher, just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're still not out to get you.
Slim Jim wrote:
The Truth wrote:England and Ireland are doing even worse than the United States. Under 10k the United Kingdom did not have one distance runner reach the finals in the last World Championships.
Karl Keska. 27:47 in the final. Do your research.
Under 10k. That means 5,000 down to 800. Read the message.
In a distance medley meet the US would beat England. England would probably cause a few problems for the US in the 1500meters. It would be a toss-up between Jason Lunn and Whitman. The English would have nobody to answer either Krummenacker and Meb.
Childhood obesity is contributing to the problem. Even though our population is growing larger, the obesity rate is growing much faster in proportion. Since 1980, the number of obese youths TRIPLED? According to this article, that is 15% of 6- to 19-year-olds. Which means only 85% are not obese, and many others are considered "overweight". The number of potential runners drops since weight is so vital to success in running.
Latest Data Show Rapid Rise in Obesity
Some facts and figures about obesity in the United States from the recent health studies:
The number of obese adults is soaring, up to nearly 59 million people, or almost a third of all adults - and doubling over the past two decades.
Fifteen percent of youths ages 6 to 19 were seriously overweight, the term experts use as a rough equivalent to obesity in children. That is nearly 9 million youths and triple the number in a similar assessment from 1980.
Obesity can sharply reduce life expectancy. Studies released this year showed that being obese at age 20 can take 20 years off a person's life; being obese at age 40 can reduce life expectancy by seven years.
The percentage of extremely obese people - at least 100 pounds overweight - is growing even faster, one study found. From the 1980s to 2000, extremely obese adults quadrupled to about 4 million, or about 1 in every 50 adults.
Medical care for the obese averaged $732 per year more per person than for people of normal weight, one study found. Nationwide, that would mean $92.6 billion more in 2002, with half the cost picked up by government-funded Medicare and Medicaid programs.
Sources: Studies in the Journal of the American Medical Association; Archives of Internal Medicine; Health Affairs journal.
12/22/03 15:40 EST
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The Obesity problem has nothing to do with distance running performances in this country. Obsese people don't run or go out for track. Beside Obesity is an pervasive problem all over the western world.
I tend to agree. The kids who will even attempt to run will be those who don't find it difficult. The obese kids don't even think about running and are the ones who walk the mile run in gym class.
Whether or not there are more obese kids today isn't an issue either because the kids with a genetic predisposition to become a fat turd by the time they are 13 are never going to be the ones who have running talent as well. Those are the kids who can eat all day long and still look big-headed toothpicks when they're in their pre-teens.
For a clue, look at the thread "naked guys in locker rooms." Then tell me again how our people are just as tough as other countries.
The biggest hurdle is getting kids and parents to understand what is necessary and typical training loads. The internet has helped this problem but I hear still of athletes complaining to AD's and getting their coach canned for "working them too hard."
But then again this was a college where their athletes complained because they had to run 15 miles every Sunday during cross season, even when they had a meet on Saturday.
I disagree. Kids are becoming more obese due to poor diet and a sedentary lifestyle. The lack of P.E. in our schools is also fueling the epidemic.
I discovered that I had running talent thanks to a high school P.E. class. The scrawny little 115 pound runt started lapping the "stud" football players while the class trained for the mile run at the end of the term. If that didn't happen, I would've spent hours playing Atari and staring at that really cool new station called MTV with the rest of my peers. Instead, I decided to go out for XC so that I could be a jock like the cool kids.
How many kids have talent they don't know about? They never get exposed to sports and just get fat eating Doritos, slamming Mountain Dew, and getting carpal tunnel syndrome on the XBOX. In ten years, Europeans will be just as fat as we are. As goes America, so goes the West. Look at the UK. They've nearly caught up to our girth and sloth.
I will contend to the day I die that the "cream" of our American genetic pool is every bit as talented as the Kenyan genetic cream or Moroccan cream. We have nearly 300 million in this country, and there are certainly more than a handful of individuals who have every bit as much genetic advantage as the Kenyans. What we don't have is the culture. Our cream is not competing because 1) our society is soft, and/or 2) they are into other sports (that they probably don't have the genetics for). Drives me nuts when I read post after post saying how east Africans are genetically superior - bullshit. Genetics probably allows for a subpopulation like the east Africans to have a slightly higher percentage of cream (not even sure that is true), but there is no way a country of 300 million doesn't have a handful of individuals of equal ability. Some of them, gasp, could even be white!! Face it, running is fringe in the US, and has been since the 70's, and will never attract the genetic freaks unless our culture changes. Don't hold your breath.
Obesity is a huge problem - please excuse the pun. There are plenty of fat kids out there who could be good (perhaps not amazing) distance runners. But if you're already overweight by the time you're a teenager there is little hope of you ever reaching your potential as a runner.
Fat genes do not exist.
Thus my comment regarding our soft culture.
squan, That situation sounds almost exactly what we were doing, but not that fast, the kids I am working with are not all that great I suppose, which is why I was so shocked that they were complainig, its not like they are all that great. FYI, Jersey does not rule, PA rules. Tell the college boy to quick trying to ruin the hs kids. Damn college kids think they know it all.
american kids get discouraged when they see the foreigner distance runners cheating with drugs....please, 3:43 miler and 26:27 10ks are the stuff of druggies.
American kids have no idea what the 5K and 10K records are - most don't know how far 5K is. They are too busy wanting to be like Kobe.