Self confidence not arrogance is a key factor. Married a long time, but found at least with my wife and a positive attitude and a healthy self confidence go a long way.
Self confidence not arrogance is a key factor. Married a long time, but found at least with my wife and a positive attitude and a healthy self confidence go a long way.
To a girl that isn't a runner you have to clarify fast before they understand it. If you talk about a race put it in terms of time per mile because that's all they understand. I think the good chicks don't care
I totally dig the fast guys! Of course I'm a college runner, and inter-team dating is the norm, and the hottest guys on the team are normally the fastest, and I get to see hotties wearing short shorts and loose jersies, and a certain sexiness correlates to success. ... So, if you're fast, keep trying... or just go bak to college ... it's inevitable that you'd date someone on the team.
Just go up to a good looking girl and say, "Hey baby, I can run a 4:02 mile. You want to do it?"
Works every time.
Gentlemen,
Women like confident men ? end of story. Most runner?s tend to be a little too hyperactive, passive-aggressive, and annoying for most women to take. Here are a few tips that will help you:
1. Stop being a ?whiny runner?. Women like strong men and not little boys who constantly complain about disrespect, being misunderstood, and others who don?t take running seriously.
2. Don?t cruise parties with your teammates. Yes, they?re your buds but five or six skeletors hanging out together looks like a pack of ravenous weasels.
3. Make friends in other ?real? sports. Use guys from the football or baseball team as your allies. If some 250 pound reserve linebacker introduces you to girls as ?my stud friend from the XC team?, that promotes you better than your 125 pound ass bragging about being all-conference last season.
4. Be versed in something other than running. While we all find this sport to be terribly fascinating, non-runners don?t care who or what a Geb is.
5. Become a Greek. Instant social networking and legitimacy with the fairer sex.
6. Be humble. People expect athletes to be pricks. Most women find an ?Aw shucks, I?m just happy that running pays for my tuition? attitude to be endearing. You may be national championship material but you don?t have to advertise that fact.
7. Be genuinely interested in what she has to say.
8. Show respect for others.
9. Outside of this board, no one cares how fast you are. It means nothing to them and, therefore, doesn?t translate to ?date-ability?. Keep your PR?s to yourself unless she asks what they are. (See point # 4 and #6)
10. Invite her to attend a meet. That?s better than trying to explain what track is and boring her to death.
11. Surround yourself with non-running friends. This gives you balance and expands your social horizons. Plus, you don?t look like some one dimensional freak. (See point #2 and #3)
12. Develop a sense of humor and humility.
13. Lastly, be sincere and genuine. Women have the uncanny ability to see through bullshit and, Lord knows, they can smell desperation from a mile away.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Chicks don't dig guys that weigh less than them, or even close. If you're 5'11", 130lbs runner guy, don't even waste your time on a 5'7", 125 lbs hottie girl. She'll look you over, and the first thing she'll think is "If I put on 10lbs of water during my period, I'll weigh more than him" -- meaning, you will make her look fat! Nosiree, that's no good!
You need to weigh at least 20 lbs more than the chick or you are SOL.
Elite men on the circuit get hit on all the time, by groupies, volunteers, middle of the pack runners. They get laid whenever they want. Most are married and will never leave their wife, but they do look great naked and can go all nite. Once you go fast you wont go back.
best lay I ever had was with a 112 pound world class athlete
I agree, I love a runners body, hard and they dont squish you when they are on top. And endurance........
running chicks like fast runner dudes....non-runners do not.
A scrawny boned, hollow cheeked guy wearing slightly foul smelling "sneakers" and a belt cinched so tight an extra hole was punched comes walking into the party breathing keytones due to muscle tissue breakdown and eyes sunk back in the sockets. Boy, that's a real turn on for girls socialized with barbie and ken dolls since they were 2 years old. 4% bodyfat does not impress a girl. 100 miles per week just sounds like an obsessive compulsive disorder and pr's mean nothing unless you jot them down on the margins of you bank statement. You just aren't going to get any so better just get the sleep you need. Oh there are a couple ways you may luck into it. Narrow your focus to girls who run a hell of a lot or the fat chicks that need lovin' too. Play on the margins, not the top of the bell curve.
This is a little of topic, and sorry to complain, but why do the girls dig the "Abercrombie-wearing-30lb.beergut-football-watching"- LOSERS who will treat them like trash and just want to "get some"?? Generally speaking from my own observations, guy runners are hardworking, smarter than normal, VERY dedicated, and will work their tails off to get what they want in life.....isn't this what the girls want instead? Don't they want a guy who is goal-oriented and passionate in all things that they embark on in life??
Portland Runner- excellent post. i was going to say many of the same things. I will add some ideas to help other guys out.
now, keep in mind, that i am not the best looking by any means, and i am not even 140lbs, and i am over 6' tall. long and lanky. but, i make up for it. here's how:
1. The Walk. how do you walk? do you walk with your hands in your pockets, and with your head looking at your grubby old runnin shoes? no matter where you are, or what mood you're in, STRUT. pronounce yourself. show off your confidance. keep your head held high, with good posture. look people in the EYE. let your arms swing naturally. walk heel-toe, heel-toe, this is smooth.
2. hair. is it messy and un-kept all the time? every now and then, it's acceptable (i.e. after a run). keep it groomed. long hair can look good if it's kept well. short hair looks professional, and executive like. it is easier to manage, and holds together much better than longer hair.
3. your wardrobe. now, you don't have to have exorbant amounts of money to dress well. i get most of my clothes from Target, and Ross/ Marshalls. you probably wouldn't know though. I look like i have a lot of dinero, but i don't. it's called FRONTIN'. the jeans at target are slim-fit, and like Portland Runner was sayin, you dont wanna look like sheets draped over bones. if you wear size large t-shirts, but should fit into a small or medium, buy the small or medium. clothes that fit and match is the key. not the brand or the style. make your own style, but make sure that it matches.
----shoes----your shoes are important also. don't wear grubby old training shoes. they're ugly, they smell bad, and they have lost all functionablity. get 2 pairs of shoes that can match 90% of your outfit. the other 10% can be worn with sandals or dress shoes. colors are the key here. white shoes go with essentially everything. so does black. vans outlets offer good shoes for normal walking and STRUTTING (see point one) for really cheap. i bought a pair of the Rowley's 2 summers ago for $40, and they still look great because i clean them and take care of them. people ask me all the time if "i got a new pair of shoes"
4. know whats going on in society. you don't have to watch the news everynight, but you'd be surprised what 10 minutes on cnn.com, or your local news at 10pm will help you. if you're in a conversation with someone and you're stuck, current events are a good place to start.
5. conversations. like portland runner said, be humble, and don't be overly opinionated. someone could share the same views as you, but if you over do it, you could just be flat out annoying.
i learned this advice from a friend about 6 months ago. somehow, i had a g/f before i learned it, but within the past 3 months, i have had atleast 3-4 girls a week hit on me. i have had girls rub my thighs in class "on accident". confidance is the name of the game. girls want a guy that can stand up for himself, and more importantly, for them. don't be afraid. instead of lookin for the perfect girl, be the perfect guy. it will come to you.
from one runner to plenty others, i hope this helps. try some of these ideas during the Christmas break, and see what happens, then post on this thread as to what worked and what didn't.
this comes from a female college runner's viewpoint... i hate to say it, but i can attest to the fact speed goggles do exist. the girls on the team, myself included, have a noticable tendency to boost a guy's all-around appeal factor is he happens to be a stud. you really can earn points with certain ladies for it. it's like any accomplishment (charity work, good job, good cook)... it adds a dimension to your character. if a woman is intelligent, she'll understand the things that come with that sort of success.. dedication, determination, desire, ambition (and a little craziness ;) ). i like those things in a guy. plus i am insanely attracted to a fit man... whether it is built or lean. i could go on and on about this. of course running ladies will have a different opinion than nonrunners. we can relate a little better. original poster, do you mean attraction for a one time thing or relationship? that may help you get more specific answers.
I definetly dig fast boys. Being a good runner is a big turn on..makes them 75% more attractive than just the general good looking jock.
Here is what you do: quit running, get a job that pays 250k a year, and you'll have all the women you want. If you can only manage 25k, thats good too, but the women will be significantly larger.
Geez people-
Just don't worry about it so much. Live your life, be confident in yourself, do what you love (whatever that is), and don't leave things to chance--i.e. don't pass up opportunities. Things will work out.
The more you worry about this stuff, the harder it is to rationalize it. Humans (men and women) are all very individual complex creatures. There are no simple steps to follow that will get you a girl/boyfriend.
Anyway, just my thoughts.
Dennis wrote:
Humans (men and women) are all very individual complex creatures.
Fascinating.
uhh what if all you want is the super model chicks?
yea, if you want super models, you gotta add another zero to the 250k number. More money=less weight and more hotness. simple equation