jesus, one for won?
dingle wrote:
Details are foggy but I ran a predict your time 4 miler that ended up being about 3.7. The woman who one was a bit crazy and seriously thought she had done really well at predicting her time.
jesus, one for won?
dingle wrote:
Details are foggy but I ran a predict your time 4 miler that ended up being about 3.7. The woman who one was a bit crazy and seriously thought she had done really well at predicting her time.
PSU alumn--
same thing happened to me in a road 10k. i was in the lead with ~1/2 mile to go...but then the pace car went straight when i thought we should turn left. followed anyway, as did the two guys behind me.
we made a little loop behind the pacer and got back on course about 2 blocks before the finish, only to see people ahead of us.
turns out there had been a car that somehow got onto the course between me and the finish, and the officials didn't want us to race into its path. but then they conveniently let everyone behind us back onto the regular (shorter) course!
uh_no wrote:
[quote]LeQuisha Smalls wrote:
Okay, let's have a little statistical fun.
your math is right but your description of the result is wrong
1.5% of courses are certified and short
82% of courses are uncertified and short
3% of courses are uncertified and correct length
12.5% of courses are certified and the right length
either way, 10/100 certified courses are short and 85/100 uncertified courses are short....thats what percentage is....
and his post was meant to say that a course being certified means there is a better change that it is accurate but it doesn't gaurantee it
I said it would be fun. It's HIGHLY unlikely 1 in 10 certified courses are short...but for purposes of this discussion, we'll let it go (I would put it at more like 1 in 100 certified courses are short, if that). On the other hand, the odds are overwhelming that a course will be short if it's uncertified.
It all makes you wonder...what and where did you set your PR's?
LeQuisha Smalls wrote:
Okay, let's have a little statistical fun.
Maybe 10-15% of all races are held on certified courses. Using your 10% of all certified courses coming up short, that means about 1-2 certified courses in 100 are short.
Roughly 85% of all courses are uncertified and 95% of those are short. That means about 82 courses in 100 are short.
You choose- certified or not.
nice slight-of-hand there.
it's not the same 100 courses in each case you present.
otherwise, only 10-15 courses of the original hundred would even be certified, of which 1-2 are short.
so, you have 8-14 courses of the original 100 that are certified and valid, while 18 of the uncertified are valid.
also thinker abouter wrote:
duathloner, that's pretty funny because it's a story of actual letdown after literally finding the course to be short. It wasn't inaccurate by 120 yards or something, it just ended before it should have.
No kidding. I could share dozens of stories about courses being measured wrong. It would be easier to start a thread about courses that were actually measured correctly.
I ran a 1/2 marathon during the winter as a workout. There was an accompanying 10 km. I thought it strange that both races shared the same start line and finish line. The 10 k was one loop and the 1/2 was a 2nd, slightly different loop. About 80% of the 1/2 field were excited with their new PRs. Most argued that the second loop was slightly different (and it was - about one block farther out and one back) to make up the 1.1 km., but still, what are the chances that one loop is EXACTLY 10 km. and the second loop is EXACTLY 11.1 km (the race info claimed 'certified') using the exact same start and finish lines. Otherwise, it was a well organized event. A few poor bastards still claim it as their PR and never came close to matching it.
why do i care if you find out who i am?...oh, unless you're like 10, in which case i should be scared of being constantly ding-dong-ditched.
by the way, i have new PR's now. a messed up time in the results could mess up your chances of finding out who i am. try to figure out who i am, that would be cool.
imagine how college athletes running at the Delllinger invite feel afterwards....
ran a PR at washington university incitational my freshman year. i had been running mid 26s for 8k all year and then suddenly busted out a 25:09. too bad everyone else ran a minute faster than their prs too.
If you run outside of the track, one should just take every course with a grain of salt,
long course - AAU qualifier in HS, was supposed to be 4k and they sent us out on the 5k course - died the last km
short course - recent 5k in Denver, a good 100m short