Duel in the Sun video clip 1982 Boston marathon : Beardsley v Salazar

Author: TDF

Subject: RE: Duel in the Sun video clip 1982 Boston marathon : Beardsley v Salazar

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Maybe it wasn\\\\\\\'t hot for Salazar or Beardsley (although their later runner careers would disagree) but it was hot for me. Maybe I went out too hard and maybe I shouldn\\\\\\\'t have sprinted back to the high school with my ex college coach an hour before the start because he forgot to bring his running shorts and top (that is another story- and he was a seeded runner who ended up racing in XXL gym shorts splattered with paint that he found in the gym and a t-shirt that I had as a spare). Anyhow the last 10 miles I drank every cup of liquid thrust my way and ate every orange piece handed to me and barely could run. I was seriously over-heated. I guess it was at least a hot day for me- if no one else. After eating all I could that night I was still 8 pounds lighter than I had been the morning of the race.

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Malmo,

No one claimed it was the hottest........and again, you did not run. It\'s always nice for spectators, it was for me in 2005, but not for the marathoners.

Please read above from another runner that day.

Let\'s give it a rest..........you believe it was not hot and those that ran know it was a tough day to run a marathon, albeit not the hottest.

Chicago may have been better... but as was the case in many ways... Boston was first.

It was the first time two marathoners finished that close in a major marathon running shoulder to shoulder. Jeff Wells almost caught Bill Rodgers a few years early, but Wells came on fast at the end.

Never before had two runners ran shoulder-to-shoulder. Never had two runners gone sub 2:09 in the same race.

Growing up in Eastern Mass I spent every Patriots Day watching that race. It was well hotter than the 60's and I believe over 80 by mid-day.

For those of us that watched it start to finish... it will always be remembered as a very special race.

abebe wrote:

Please read above from another runner that day.

Maybe Malmo didn't take in consideration that for you 3 hour joggers you'd be out there a long time.

What well known runner at that time's younger brother was a manager at Nike Welly back then?

Well, there's always room for an A-hole.

In case you didn't know, those days a sub 2:50 was required for all men under 40 and sub 3 for masters men.

While these times are far from world class, Boston was THE marathon "for the serious runner". Today there are many charity and much slower marathoners making their way from Hopkington to Boston.

Slowpoke, you must be world class.

bill rodger's brother

Burger Boy wrote:

What well known runner at that time's younger brother was a manager at Nike Welly back then?

Gee, let me take a guess? It was the older brother of the same guy who took a bad check written to "Nike Welly" - Fitchburg Fats.

the race started at 12pm not like those early morning starts nowadays.

Uncle Pervy wrote:

Growing up in Eastern Mass I spent every Patriots Day watching that race. It was well hotter than the 60's and I believe over 80 by mid-day.

80? are you sure it wasn't 90? The other guy from Florida was "getting a suntan" at the start.

The record from weather stations all around the Hopkinton to Boston trek.

and from Worcester, close to the starting point in Hopkinton

malmo wrote:

Burger Boy wrote:

What well known runner at that time's younger brother was a manager at Nike Welly back then?

Gee, let me take a guess? It was the older brother of the same guy who took a bad check written to "Nike Welly" - Fitchburg Fats.

Fitchburg Fats is Randy Thomas, GBTC 2:11 marathoner.

The year before Beardsley & Inge Simonsen had dead heated at the 1st London Marathon.

What if Beardsley would have had a clean shot at the finish, no motorcycles to hurdle??

Finishing 3 minutes ahead of Rodgers is still incomprehensible to me. This was the race of the ages IMO.

Yeah okay... with all due respect to Chris Brasher, a dead heat at 2:12 at a first year marathon isn't exactly the same as two sub 2:09's at Boston in 1982.

Must have been hotter in Methuen...

The Worcester airport isn't "close" to the starting point unless you consider 70 degrees to be close to 80. I mean if your gonna nitpick...

The most interesting part of the data is the 70 degrees at Logan airport... you'd think with the sea breeze that would be cooler.

Uncle Pervy wrote:

Must have been hotter in Methuen...

The Worcester airport isn't "close" to the starting point unless you consider 70 degrees to be close to 80. I mean if your gonna nitpick...

The most interesting part of the data is the 70 degrees at Logan airport... you'd think with the sea breeze that would be cooler.

Worcester to Hopkinton is 17 miles.

That day there were blustery winds coming from the Northwest, and generally at the runners backs.

Keep trying uncle pervy. You can't change the official temperature records of the day.

malmo just confirmed what I suspected: the wind was at the runners' backs, significantly increasing functional temperature (since the cooling effect of being in motion is negated). If it was 65 and bright sun with a 10 mph tailwind, that could well FEEL equivalent to (and affect performance to the same degree as) an 80+ degree day that was overcast and calm.

sartorial cowboy wrote:

malmo just confirmed what I suspected: the wind was at the runners' backs, significantly increasing functional temperature (since the cooling effect of being in motion is negated). If it was 65 and bright sun with a 10 mph tailwind, that could well FEEL equivalent to (and affect performance to the same degree as) an 80+ degree day that was overcast and calm.

I ran the race, or at least most of it. I remember a hot, drying sun. The kind of day when the salt perspiration just cakes up on your face.

There is very little shade on the course and it felt like a desert.

I dropped at 21 miles my entire body was one big cramp. I believe I was in 7th place at the time.

And I was pretty badly sunburned the next day. That's what happens to a New Englander that first exposure to the sun in months!!

wow...f***..ing idiot cops.

22.84 miles actually... again, if you're going to nitpick.

If you read above... I said, well over 60 and I believe over 80. I think a high of 70 puts me right there. At least as close as you are in the distance relationship of Worcester and Hopkinton.

The big question... why do you care? Does it still bother you all these years later that you had to wait 6 months to mix it up with those two?