Rename the treadmill

Gaitfactory

treadmill pace is around a min/mile easier. No wind resistance.

the fagosaurus, the fagachine

PLACIBO MACHINE

The BROJO Train-everyone aboard-toot toot

I am about to run a marathon in 2 hours, not on a treadmill and this thread just made my day

sub 2:40!!

stationary road,

the looper,

anti allergy mill,

cheatmill,

runnerciseermill,

fart tester mill,

mental mill,

rest runner,

run station,

still runner,

The Injury Baron

Cross claims, "treadmill pace is around a min/mile easier. No wind resistance."

No way! I know many people who say it is easier but no way in hell is it that much easier. I know I'm in the minority, but I actually find it feels harder to maintain a certain pace. I think has to do with my low shuffle stride. Perhaps, 'higher knee lifters' find it easier but NOT "min/mile easier".

doubt it wrote:

Cross claims, "treadmill pace is around a min/mile easier. No wind resistance."

No way! I know many people who say it is easier but no way in hell is it that much easier."

I agree....I find that it is way easier to run outside compared to running on the treadmill...if anything I can run 30 seconds per mile faster outside with the same level of effort. The one thing a treadmill I do like about the treadmill is it allows me to do my progressive tempo runs correctly. Whereas outside I usually start out too fast.

I agree that -- despite the lack of headwind -- my outdoor paces feel much harder on most treadmills/plane launcers.

I've wondered about calibration issue with machines in gyms. Does it make sense that belt stretch would typically result in paces becoming more difficult?

The Dean K

How about- The place where I've seen the American record holder in the miler run on several occassions.

Why do all the walkers insisit on walking in the inside lane of the belt at my gym. I yell belt and nothing . Inconsiderates.

serunner11 wrote:

should be called, if you use this you are not a runner. or joggertool

the level of ignorance and stupidity on this board in sometimes absolutely amazing.

christine clark trained almost exclusively on a treadmill and qualified for the sydney olympics on it.

as an aside, she WON the 2000 oly trials. and finished 19th in the olympics.

i am going to guess dr. clark knows more about training for marathons and about treadmills than you do.

it is also a pretty fair bet she is more of a "real runner" than you will ever be.

How about "Television Required for Maximum Workout"

Hamster Highway.

I agree some people are stupid, when it comes to treadmill training. I have used the treadmill as a training tool since 1998, and have had pretty good success. Many Marathons 2:26-2:31 range, which I understand is not world class, but for us in the real world and are getting older, it helps keep us healthy, while maintaining decent weekly mileage. I do agree, you need to find a balance between outside/treadmill running. The treadmill, does help improve running economy, epecially for marathon runners, it teaches you to run lower to the ground, and elimate bounce.

I call it the "Mo-Go"