Just what did his training consist of?
Just what did his training consist of?
It all depends what training you have done in the past. I recently took a year off running and withing a few weeks of 10 miles per week I could scrape under 16.
I'm pretty sure I can run under 16 minutes off of zero miles/week. I know I ran sub 16 after 2 weeks of easy running following an injury where I was out for 4 months. It just depends on the athlete.
I ran against a guy in high school who ran a 3:45 1500m while training at 15 miles per week. he never got much faster after high school, though
There's a difference between running 50-60 miles a week, taking a week or two off from injury, running 17:00 and training only 14 miles a week and running 17:00. In the first example you had trained 50-60 miles a week before having to take time off for injury so you still carried the fitness of 50-60 miles a week.
Here's a schedule for low mileage and fast running:
Monday: 3 miles, all-out, 1 mile total warmup/cooldown
Tuesday: repeat 100s
Wednesday: 3 mile jog
Thursday: 3 miles, all-out, 1 mile total warmup/cooldown
Friday: repeat 100s
Saturday: OFF
Sunday: OFF
Basically if you just did a lot of short all-out runs and some sprints you'd get pretty fast pretty quickly, but overall your progression will level off. In the early part of the 20th century that's how you trained. Want to run a fast 5k?...well then you run 5k as fast as you can each day until you have to take a day. Then you rest until you can do it again.
Alan
Look at Andy Norman at Alty, he was out for over a year with PF after a recent comeback he is now back to 31mins for 10k and looking like being a real force at the 6 stage relays
The Normans are a rare breed. Dave Norman was backing running sub 30mins for 10k just a few weeks after a hernia operation.
I was injured for a long time and then could not get back into running due to my time schedule. The total was 8 months.
On a whim I jumped into a 5k road race and wanted to kill myself and run 18:30 or so. I ran it in 17:03 and did not feel like I was pushing it too bad.
The next day I was very sore though.
That motivated me to get going again and I am coming back slowly.
I was a low 15s guy.
I ran right at 17:00 when I was 39 on 30 miles a week. Towards the end of the summer, I was down in the 20 mile range. I ran 10 miles everyday I ran, but only ran 2 or 3 days a week. I would race, run a 5 mile tempo, and do a steady run.
After being injured for 3 years, I ran a couple races on absolutely no training and ran 28 minute 4 mile and 22:30 5k.
If I was only allowed to run 14 miles a week, I would build up to 4 or 5 miles 3 days a week transitioning to 2 days a week at 6-8 miles each day.
no way in hell I could ever do that
I can't, bbut I bet Paul Tergat can.
well, Fam runs sub 14 on pure talent. so I'm sure some one can run sub 17 on 14 miles.
I know a guy in his early thirties who consistently runs low-17:00s and occassionally pops off a 16:30ish off of a few 30 minute runs a week. I wouldn't be surprised if most weeks he gets less than 14 miles. He has never run high mileage nor did he run in college, so this cannot be explained by cumulative fitness. He told me that he tries to eat right, and a few days a week he runs for 30 minutes all out. Interestingly, he smokes.
considering that i ran 1:55, 50.2 and a 4:15 off of 6 weeks of 20mile weeks in hs. it can easily be done
17:00 is a pretty bad time for a 5k.
What's the point of trying to run as little as possible to get a medicore time?
Why not put in some real training and try to get under 15:00?
Set a goal actually worth achieving.
Get To Work wrote:
17:00 is a pretty bad time for a 5k.
What's the point of trying to run as little as possible to get a medicore time?
Why not put in some real training and try to get under 15:00?
Set a goal actually worth achieving.
You have been nominated for letsrun average poster of the year.
say how slow you think a time is
belittle those who run that time
infer you have run much faster
suggest everyone is capable of something most aren't
I trained hard ran 1358 wrote:
say how slow you think a time is
belittle those who run that time
infer you have run much faster
suggest everyone is capable of something most aren't
no, i agree with him
Its all relative 17.00 is slow to us sub 16min 5k runners but to a 22min 5k runner 17.00 is damn quick. A lack of natural talent will mean some people will never run 17.00
No, it can't be done.
For sure.
When I was 18 many years ago I was running 1.5 miles per day, 5 days per week for conditioning.
i entered a three mile race after @ 10 weeks of this training, never having run more than 2 miles nonstop in my life and ran a 16:20.
I later ran track in college and never broke 4:20 for the mile so it's not like I was a super talent