You sure it wasn't a 300m track or something? It looks like he's going awfully slow...
You sure it wasn't a 300m track or something? It looks like he's going awfully slow...
PhysMech wrote:
But like I said, I'm not an expert on POSE.
wondering wrote:
Do you consider yourself and expert on running mechanics?
hey, PhysMech, you forgot to answer my question. i'm still waiting...
I didn't forget...
PhysMech wrote:
My picks for running smoothness:
56 second 400m pace (1500m): Hicham El Guerrouj (Coe and Webb are close tho)
12 second 100m kick: Alan Webb - even better than Billy Mills classic finish, but pace has to be slow enuf to allow a 12s final 100m to be run
Are you s***ing me?! Webb has some of the worst technique. How can you not see how he\'s extremely tense in the back and shoulders. That\'s a lot of wasted energy.
What you see in Webb as tension and rigidity I see as excellent cancellation of the forces generated by the arms and legs as the forces are transfered diagonally through the abdomen. Any rocking back and forth of the head or alternating dipping of the shoulders (and the resultant changing spine angles), which looks "smooth" to a lot of people, is actually causing the arms or legs (or both) to work harder. On occasion though, I have seen where his shoulders don't seem to rotate (spin around his spine) enough in some of his races, causing his arms to work a bit harder and maybe tensing up his upper abdomen some.
But hey, no one's perfect - I see a certain angle that El G achieved in every one of his 1500 victories that I've watched that was not quite there in two of his races that he didn't win (one was a WC and other an OLY race).
PhysMech wrote:
But like I said, I'm not an expert on POSE.
wondering wrote:
Do you consider yourself and expert on running mechanics?
wondering wrote:
hey, PhysMech, you forgot to answer my question. i'm still waiting...
PhysMech wrote:
I didn't forget...
I'll take that as a "no." Just what I thought.
I\'ll take that as a \"no.\" Just what I thought.[/quote]
Stop being an ass.
I'll take that as a "no." Just what I thought.
This thread is not about me - it's about Bekele and running mechanics.
PhysMech wrote:
This thread is not about me - it's about Bekele and running mechanics.
...which you describe as being quite good. did you not? I was just wondering what makes you such an expert on form. please enlighten us on your background. simple request.
it's pretty easy to see the difference between bad and good form
does everyone need a "background" to start a thread?
on top of that quit being an ass, he doesn't have to "enlighten" anyone
-And i for one stopped caring about what was good and bad form when i saw Paula "bobble-head" Radcliffe, run faster than my PR by about 10 minutes-
i for one wrote:
it's pretty easy to see the difference between bad and good form
does everyone need a "background" to start a thread?
on top of that quit being an ass, he doesn't have to "enlighten" anyone
-And i for one stopped caring about what was good and bad form when i saw Paula "bobble-head" Radcliffe, run faster than my PR by about 10 minutes-
I'm sure it was unintended, but you made my point. Thank you.
you're welcome?
wondering wrote:
I'm sure it was unintended, but you made my point. Thank you.
but seriously, quit being a douche
wondering,
Have you ever considered the full force method of running a 200 meter race? Have you ever run a 200 meter race? Full force? If so, what kind of footwear did you apply? Did you use any at all? What was your pace? Did you apply said pace throughout the entire distance at full force? Mechanics will determine multiple outcomes of one single race. We can perceive only one of the outcomes, but this does not mean the other outcomes do not exist. Using the full force method, all outcomes can be perceived and then the best outcome or "plot paragon" can be selected for current reality. What do you think? Do you think you won't have tried this. What's your take on the 200 meters as a run. Have you ever run a 200 meter race? Full force?
Ok, seriously, you need to answer the big question. Do you consider yourself and expert on running mechanics? Answer clearly and in plain English please.
What credentials do I have? I'm an expert on running mechanics.!
PhysMech wrote:
....Bekele's high feet during his stride ("pulling" in POSE-speak) is actually the only part of his motion that is wasteful at 63 second 400m pace, IMO...
So you think that Bekele is inneficient at 63 second lap pace?
I would like to point out that his world record for 10000m = 63 second laps. Do you think he was inneficient when he ran 26.17?
i for one wrote:
it's pretty easy to see the difference between bad and good form
No, it isn't.
u r wrong, OK, maybe it's just easy for me
But I've been running since I was 6, so it's been 30 years of running, and watching other people run.
So, yes, for me the difference between bad and good form is easy to see
and i really don't understand why you need "credentials" to say someone has good or bad form
or why it even matters
like I said Radcliffe ran a 2:15, a good 10 1/2 minutes ahead of me
and from the waist up she has HORRIBLE form.
so quit worrying about all this "Alan Webb has horrible form,"
start worrying about the fact that he's the 24th fastest 1500m runner ever, and you're not