I'm in Kenya

He's actually in Texas somewhere.

16x wrote:

sorry, I started another thread about the schedule and times....

what time (central time zone in the USA) will the races be run and when can we expect results and details?

16x

-8 hours for Central Time

This might help you.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/personal.html?&sort=2

PF wrote:

I hope the Americans who decided to forgo the race read the above as well as the whiny peanut gallery who won't shut up about the fact that some of our runners actually get to choose their own racing schedule. It's hot, it's humid and it doesn't fit into the long term goals of many of our best runners who obviously know more about how to prepare for prossional running than anyone who posts here. Myself included. Wejo included as well.

I haven't been part of that debate, but I have my opinions. Although I agree that American runners should have the freedom to forego the world x-c championships, and should be free to pursue more lucrative alternatives if they so choose, I don't agree that their decision should be immune to criticism because they "obviously know more" about "preparing" for professional running than anyone who posts here.

Back when I was running at a national-class level, I was thrilled to be able to run against guys from countries where running is taken seriously. To me, it was like being on the national basketball team of a basketball-poor country and having the opportunity to play against top American players like Michael Jordon. Who would turn down that opportunity? Yet many top American runners, back then as well as today, have chosen to compete in races that are tilted in favor of attracting American runners and discouraging foreign runners (through restrictive race entries; American-only prize, appearance, and incentive money; and so on). I thought that reflected badly on those runners back then, and I think that it reflects badly on them today. To me, anyone who really appreciates the history and culture of world-class running should welcome the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to compete in the world's greatest distance race, being held for the first time in the home of the world's greatest running nation.

You got your computer to work?

I thought you were in the third world or something. Have you been chased by cannibals yet?

This is completely beyond belief to me.

wejo wrote:

... One of the guys in a caravan yesterday saw the police stop and beat the crap out of a guy in a car who didn't get off to the side fast enough or did something wrong. Supposedly the president has given orders of "shoot to kill". At least that's what I heard.

5) Everyone is super friendly.

We come in peace, shoot to kill!

You should publish a chidren's running book titled "Where's Wejo?"

Hey, that guy by the water cooler wants to try on a pair of size 10 Nikes. Hop to it.

Actually, I discovered that, if I got rid of the apostrophe in "Avocado's Number," I could post here. I'm not sure, but I have a hunch that the software on the site was rejiggered to discourage certain counterfeit name posters, and "Avocado's Number" was a casualty of that.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------wejo wrote:... One of the guys in a caravan yesterday saw the police stop and beat the crap out of a guy in a car who didn't get off to the side fast enough or did something wrong. Supposedly the president has given orders of "shoot to kill". At least that's what I heard.5) Everyone is super friendly.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Serious? wrote:

He's actually in Texas somewhere.

He must be.

If you see a lot of armadillos and lawyers wandering the countryside, then you're in Texas, not Kenya.

I would in a heartbeat. For exactly the same reason I'd turn down a 12k race in Miami in August.

I can't think of "any" much less "many." Would you care to name them?

Are you saying that there shouldn't be American only prize money in National Championship races?

Again, one can appreciate the history of world-class running without going to a place like Mombasa. Even in the coolest months, July and August, Mombasa is oppressively hot.

He's holed up with tRg, the whole Kenya trip is a ruse.

Also Wejo mentioned the course running through a sand pit. Do all the nations get a good course description before hand and maybe have a chance to throw in some specific running work on sand. Or might this be something the Kenyans threw in in an attempt to catch the Ethiopians off gaurd and give them a little insider info to possibly help win the race, individual wise. Tricky tricky.

Ethio Boy wrote:

If this event was held at high altitude..people would complain about the altitude advantage for africans...(morons will still complain about the heat, eventhough you loose about a degree centigrate for 160 meters). If its held in mombassa at sea level, you will complain about the heat.

After years and years of comming to your land and running in snow, ice, mud water etc., africans get one chance to host this championships and you complain about security, heat, or your racing plan.

You know what... stay home.. you don't deserve our hospitality.

Lighten up Francis.....

George,

I'm surprised to hear you say that you'd turn down an opportunity to compete against the best in the world in the world championships just because of the hot weather. I'm also surprised that you can't think of any Americans who have chosen to compete in races that are skewed in favor of American runners. I certainly can (and I don't care to name them). And I'm obviously not saying that there shouldn't be American-only prize money in a U.S. Championship.

Malmo is just a white collar sissy who talks the tough talk, yet when the heat is turned up, the coward is exposed.

With what you now know about the heat, humidity, and course. if you had run in Boulder and made the team, would you run the race in Mombasa?

It was hot and humid in Atlanta for the Olympics as well as for the Olympic Trials. Stop being babies American distance runners. It is disgusting! Malmo, you seem to epitomize the American distance runner with that post. Keep it up as we continue to suck!

Avocados Number wrote:

I'm surprised to hear you say that you'd turn down an opportunity to compete against the best in the world in the world championships just because of the hot weather.

What part aren't you getting about Mombasa's weather? It's not merely "hot" it's oppressively hot, unlike anything you've ever raced in. In fact, a 75 degree dew point is something that you might experience a couple times in a summer, and only if you live in the wrong places. Twelve Looooong kilometers. 25-30 hour adventure to get there. 7-10 hour jet lag. This is the "Tour d'Enfer." After the race is over now reverse the process and take that 25-30 journey home. You've now wasted 10 days of training trying to prove you're a tough guy.

Last time I checked events like World Championships and Olympics are places where you prove that your a tough guy. American runners can whine and complain about the conditions while the rest of the world's top runners man up and take the battle field in Mombaasa. Now go back to the NYSE with your Starbucks in one hand and your man purse in the other.