IU Cross Guys Running Marathons

You guys (and the rest of your country) are just pussies about the 42K. It's a race. A long race. But it doesnt kill you. Hell, you got f'in tattoos. Those took longer to recover from than a marathon.

Those IU guys will be better on the track... guaranteed. Bizuneh ran 22:30 for 8k after is marathon debut. Quit being white-assed american defeatists and join the club of hard working optismists. When did you decide marathoms were the end of your career.

Have you heard of Geb? He is better than ever. Stop f'in whining.

Jeffersons got $25k a year from Nike, but it came with strings -- they had to move to Eugene to get it. If they didn't come to Eugene, they got zero.

Tim had already talked to Chapman about his desire to eventually race the marathon, and the coach was all about it. Some people are just born marathoners. If Tim could handle 100+ in high school without injury troubles, why shouldn't he be able to train for and compete at the marathon distance now? The man has no wheels...even Vance could whoop him at 200m. Great debut, brother of the palindrome. Looking good for 2008.

But why does Champman help him do this. Why waste money/time on a recruit that isnt producing in the Big Ten and National meets. The whole point of running for a university is to score points, win meets, win national championships. Why doesnt he join a club somewhere. Just doesnt make any sense.

marafronds wrote:

You guys (and the rest of your country) are just pussies about the 42K. It's a race. A long race. But it doesnt kill you. Hell, you got f'in tattoos. Those took longer to recover from than a marathon.

Those IU guys will be better on the track... guaranteed. Bizuneh ran 22:30 for 8k after is marathon debut. Quit being white-assed american defeatists and join the club of hard working optismists. When did you decide marathoms were the end of your career.

Have you heard of Geb? He is better than ever. Stop f'in whining.

the thing about Geb is a good point. After his London debut in '02 a LOT of people on this board said he would suck if he ever went back to the track. Granted he was more injury prone than he was in the '90s, he still ran just 8seconds off his 10000m WR when he did get back on the track in '03, and got the silver behind Bekele in the Paris World Champs running the last 5000m under 13flat. Seems like his speed wasn't really dulled all that much.

You have offered no evidence to support your claim that the training that they are doing is no beneficial to both their performance at the marathon distance and also to their performance in XC and track. You have to love Letsrun. Bash kids for not running enough miles and focusing on the shorter distances while competing in the archaic and backwards US college system. Then turn around and bash the ones that are logging the miles and doing the work for not taking home the trophies at NCAA's.

Who's to say that these guys would be more successful at Big Ten's or NCAA's if they were doing something different? How do you know they are even training for the marathon? Maybe they felt that the training they did for XC had gotten them in decent marathoning shape, and now that the season is over, decided to give it a go. Maybe they are redshirting indoors. Maybe that's not Coach Chapman's focus. But go ahead and make assumptions and pass judgement. It's Letsrun tradition.

Mcleod was 11th in the big ten cross meet this year and fruin was 25th both as sophomores. They were also 23rd and 33rd respectively at the district meet. So they do help the team at the big ten and regional level, and both are still young with 2 years of cross and 3 years of track left. Does that make sense?

yeah, but wrote:Bash kids for not running enough miles and focusing on the shorter distances while competing in the archaic and backwards US college system. Then turn around and bash the ones that are logging the miles and doing the work for not taking home the trophies at NCAA's.

ran at IU and for chapman briefly. this is insane. he had a guy do this a few years back, andrews i think (?) and after the marathon he basically quit running altogether.

I'm pretty sure he didn't stop running because of that marathon.

Eugene Dude wrote:

Jeffersons got $25k a year from Nike, but it came with strings -- they had to move to Eugene to get it. If they didn't come to Eugene, they got zero.

That is ridiculous. Unless they got their housing and all other essentials out of that $25k, that is a horrible deal. Hanson guys that run 2:19 in the marathon get more than that.

i think most hanson guys that run 2:19 are still folding clothes at the gap or working the olive garden part time.

Only if they need some additional cash. I hope that those guys that make a whopping $25k are not paying an agent.

Just so you guys are aware. That 25k is obviously just a base salary. The Jefferson's receive free daily massage, a 20 year health insurance policy, a $5,000 bonus for every week that they show up to the track, an additional $5,000 dolllar bonus for every completed workout, and porn for life.

I am almost postive that they get their apartment paid for. 25,000 with out having to pay for a place to live is not a bad deal.

and health insurance.

If these guys are only getting $25,000 a year then I really appreciate the sacrifice. That is barely above the poverty level and they have many expenses that a normal person doesn't. Health insurance is a mandatory and very expensive if not included. If they give any percentage to an agent or a coach then they are BELOW the poverty line. It is a sad state of affairs in american distance running if this is truly the case.

It is kinda sad that over 30 years ago PRE died as a poor struggling distance runner and today we have the exact same financial scenario.

In order to get this back on topic, you guys should understand one main thing. THE MARATHON IS THE ONLY PLACE TO MAKE MONEY. Unless of course you can run sub 27:15 or 13:00 or 3:48 (mile). Coach Chapman is smart enough to realize this fact and start getting his younger guys in this mentality. No one outside of this board cares about a sub 4 minute mile.