Alcohol and running performance

Sure ... what do you look like?

Kenyan athletes do drink. Not like retarded frat boy alcholics, but they do drink. Usually, they won't admit it right off because it carries a bit of a stigma. And, it's true they don't often drink when based in the US or Europe because the focus is on training/racing and saving every penny. But back in Kenya its a very different story. Kenyans, in general, like their beer and athletes are no exception.

nyet wrote:

Kenyan athletes do drink... Usually, they won't admit it right off because it carries a bit of a stigma... But back in Kenya its a very different story. Kenyans, in general, like their beer and athletes are no exception.

Are you retarded? Have you ever even been to Kenya or Eastern Africa? Have you even met anyone from there before? They drink about as much as you think (which obviously isn't very much) and many of them on a moments thought (something you wouldn't understand) would contribute much of their edge to their lifestyle.

I don't drink. I don't kiss girls. These things do an athlete in. -Suleiman Nyambui

Nyambui was no slouch either; in the 1980 Summer Olympics, he was the 5,000 meter silver medalist. On February 6, 1981, he set the world record in the 5,000 meters indoor (13:20.4). In college he ran for UTEP, and from 1980-82 he won the NCAA championship in the 5,000 meters 3 times; from 1979-82 he won the NCAA championship in the 10,000 meters 4 times.

You’re probably right though; he was lying and drank like a fish. I also heard he was a prostitute, but they don't kiss do they...

Not that it matters, but Nyambui was Tanzanian.

One absurd and decades old quote from a non-Kenyan, plus your pre-teen level insults and attempts at wit do nothing to counter the factual basis of my post. Why the heat? Have a drink and cool off.

And for whatever its worth, I've been to Kenya many times, Uganda, and Tanzania too. I know several current and former athletes - have had beers with them. Anyone with a pair of eyes and a brain will tell you that Kenyans, and East Africans drink. End of story.

Many of the best runners and cyclists have regularly drunk huge amounts of alchohol.

Beikoku Tamashi wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleiman_Nyambui

Not that it matters, but Nyambui was Tanzanian.

Oh, man! Hard to believe he's 53 years old now. (He was 30 when he was running for UTEP? Apparently...)

I loved to see ol' Suleiman and Ed Eyestone go at it.

P.S. Sorry for the threadjacking.

nyet wrote:

One absurd and decades old quote from a non-Kenyan, plus your pre-teen level insults and attempts at wit do nothing to counter the factual basis of my post. Why the heat? Have a drink and cool off.

I don't think it's too absurd... so what, Nyambui's not a Kenyan... fishfry did say "eastern african" too... Maybe you should also have a drink and cool off... probably already are huh?

Beikoku Tamashi wrote:

Oh, man! Hard to believe he's 53 years old now. (He was 30 when he was running for UTEP? Apparently...)

He was 27 at the 1980 olympics:

[quote]now that's old! wrote:

My favorite Suleiman Nyambui quote:

"Hey Matt Parker! I had sex with two girl before I win 2 national title!"

...or so the story goes

Every thing in moderation. That why I only have 3 beers after daily workouts! It part of my quality warm-down

cheers

Uh guys Floyd Landis. Remember how great he did in the stage of the tour after taking shots the night before. Drink up, it obviously helps your performance.

WithMeSoFar? wrote:

At first, running might be more important then drinking. However, after strings of injuries, going out and having a good time with friends may start to become more important than running.

The choices become:

Fun or Pain. Hitting on girls at the bar, or talking about girls with your running buddies while pounding out painful mile after painful mile.

Pain is fun. Nothing better then working all season towards that big race. Racing big and then getting ripped. Thats when you can slap girls butts and pull thier bra straps.

Run through your injury and stop being a little metrosexual.

Calories are energy, here's a little factoid about which types of food have the most calories per gram:

Fat has 9 calories per gram, Carbs have 4, Protein has 4....

Alcohol has 7.

Of course, alcohol is poison. But if you can train your body to use that poison as energy you'll be running on some pretty gnarly fumes. I've had some of the best workouts of my life with team mates running next to me bitching about how i smelled like a distillery.

pewee = Fishfry posting under another name?

Yeah, the Nyambui quote (even if its real) is absurd.

There is absolutely no need, and to my mind no virtue, in going through life, or training, abstaining from fun. Getting laid and having a few drinks are both pleasurable and good for the overall well being...unless you're plagued by guilt. I'm sure the members of the American Taliban trolling these boards will throw their brand of infantile moral condemnation around, but if that's what makes em feel good... have at it.

This post began with the need to obtain info concerning the question of whether alcohol thinning the blood and making the heart pump easier would be worth the dehydration.

From the start it's been about performance, and yet you turn it into a question of the value of fun; who is it really that's acting on underlying values? The fact that you believe that "abstaining from fun" isn't worth performance benefits doesn't say a thing about the topic at hand, but only your take on the existential elements of the compromise.

Once again, when did this become about anything other than performance? Who's underlying (supreme?) value of "non-judgment/condemnation" has come to the fore to battle a supposed value of abstinence on the part of the present author? When was a moral weight of any kind even tied to this?

I also find it ironic that your using your own morals (non-judgment/condemnation) to battle the morals which you think you see in me (abstinence being morally apt); whose judging and condemning who?

"A great many of those who 'debunk' traditional...values have in the background values of their own which they believe to be immune from the debunking process."