Update on Dean Karnaze's 50/50/50 thing?

Here are Sam Thompson's feats.

http://maniacs.marathonguide.com/MyMarathons.cfm?MID=208

The original marathon-a-day king is Terry Fox. He did a marathon a day for nearly 150 straight days. So Dean K. can suck on that. And Fox did it for charity.

It was only a matter of time before the Deano apologists appeared. Quit wielding the words 'hate' and 'elite.' You should have spent more time crafting a better reply using more logic and less cliched malarkey. To defend this creature is to defend a money-grubbing circus sideshow that does NOTHING to further the sport.

Terry Fox is in a completely different league of extraordinaire than Dean K will ever be in. He was truly a legend.

What exactly is he doing wrong?

who is terry fox?

So he's running 26 miles a day....that in itself isn't exactly easy...182 miles a week...slow or not. THEN make it all in one run, a 26 mile run every day for 50 days. That's a lot of running. You'd almost HAVE to run a bit slow just to make it through it. 10:00 pace is pretty slow though. Do they keep records of this type of stuff? # of miles run in 50 days? Etc.

Alan

Creature?

He is doing the following wrong:

1. Running with the sole intention to self promotion--pimping his book and anything from granola bars to sunglasses to $40 insoles with his visage on them.

2. Exaggerating. He made claims that this circus sideshow (50 in 50) had never been tried before and that it was doing something like 'testing the limits of human endurance' or some such nonesense.

3. Pimping acts of kindness for all the world to see. He thumps his Karnokids and brags about saving a baby named Katalina as if he rescued the damn thing from a burning building.

4. Going to the State Department and making outrageous claims b/c he got beat and this robbed him of a significant PR event to kickstart his lucrative circus act.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/siadventure/14/south_pole/

5. Writing a horrendous book using 8th Grade cliches.

6. Petitioning to the Late Show to get on (see #1 about the sole intent of running).

7. SEAL TEAM 6 photo op.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/05/18/SPGASITLA11.DTL

8. Writing a horrendous blog with insipid sentences like "Kansas, your spirit lives in my heart."

Now, the average Karn. industry apologist will say that there's nothing wrong with living the American dream and makin' bucks while traveling around the country from ignorant town to ignorant town like the King or Duke in Mark Twain's Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. The argument falls flat on its face here because this is supposed to be a buletin board for ascetic runners who live off $100 race winnings running their heart and lungs out. This is supposed to be a place where people aspire to compete against one another and not against some made up circus standard. People here aren't jealous: They're pissed off that this clown does nothing for running other than making a dime off it and feeding the cattle. Call it what you want, but to me it's WRONG.

Letsrun.com's second favorite ultra-runner, Pam Reed beat Dean at the Boulder Backroads by a few seconds. They had a $500 wager between the two with the money going to charity.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Do they keep records of this type of stuff? # of miles run in 50 days? Etc.

Alan

The Sri Chinmoy races do. Many folks have done 3100 miles in 50 - 55 days.

Dean's is a good training effort for a true multi-day runner.

Wow there buddy you hold a serious grudge for some reason...

1. Does this only apply for runners what about musicians, actresses and what about OPRAH...Musicians...they can no longer just play music for the love of it and to make tons of money....no promoting your self allowed?

2. Ok you can be mad at him for this assuming this is true. But to be that upset wow...I mean maybe he just made a mistake.

3. Again I bring up Oprah or how about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie or any of the other Charitable Pimps...Warren Buffet just gave away $20 billion....

4. If you and I were to swim a half mile could I use flippers? I didn't think so...

5. Talk about being childish...

6. Proof? However I will note if thats true well he is doing a good job of promoting for the companies that pay him...people who can be alittle annoying do tend to get ahead in life.

7. This sounds pretty cool actually...dont see the problem.

8. Talk about being childish...

OHHHH lets run is only for poor folks now? UH oh alert the press unless your a struggling road whore get off..

YOU'RE A LITTLE BITCH.

Is this more hardcore?

Have sex with 50 ladies in 50 states in 50 days.

I think we should all be sincerely inspired by the fact that Dean has made significant cash while distance running. Few others can claim so.

However, he clearly misleads people constantly and his physical feats are ... really nothing new or top-notch. For gods sakes he gets beat by women in races and he is now showing that he can barely go under 4 hours in his marathons.

Adding to the list of other accomplishments that are far more impressive: Remember that Bryan Roberts covered the same mileage per day as Dean ... but he did so for 350 days, not 50. He did so while carrying his own pack, dealing with his own logistics, with some truly awful weather (tons of snow), largely alone, with rough footing and with massive elevation gain, all while being the only man on the planet to do the Rocky Mountain Trail, the PCT, and the App. Trail in one calendar year.

[quote]milefan wrote:

Wow there buddy you hold a serious grudge for some reason...

4. If you and I were to swim a half mile could I use flippers? I didn't think so...

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If you and I were to race a cross country race, could I use spikes? Yes you stupid asshole, they do provide an advantage but I still have to move my legs along just like some stupid f***er who might decide to race on a muddy day in trainers. The snowshoes were the same thing, if Dean thought they'd be such an advantage he should have worn them himself or not GIVEN them to the other guy.

You moved along nicely with your counter argument making replies using the same numbering structure as the original post, presenting your side of the case logically and then, sadly, you fell on your smug, ad hominem face by writing the most disparate of closing sentences, "YOU'RE A LITTLE BITCH." , I recommend the next time you work up a crafty response, don't close with this line. (It does little to build a perfect touche' consensus.) It hurts you more than it helps.

Try maybe next time, YOU are a litle bitch. (use the all caps in this manner).

Or try...

You ARE a little bitch.

etc. etc.

that is a good call on the YOU sir are a little bitch.

The all caps was probably not the way to go.

As for the other person who presented spikes in a race. Ok so we agree that flippers and snow shoes provide an advantage in there given events. I would argue that spikes are not as advantageous unless given a very very sloppy and hilly course. Why would Dean give someone HIS snow shoes (an advantage) unless he didn't think they were racing. Dean said "If we were actually racing I wouldn't have given them some advantage"

Why would Dean think they were not racing if prize money was on the line? I love he also says that they should all go together than he leaves early, classic asshole only thinking about himself. I bet he would have taken the prize money had he won.

From that SI article listed above, here is what Dean apparently did when he finished the South Pole marathon. I'm all for a good time, and THEN some, but this doesn't exactly sound like the behavior you'd expect from an apparent self-professed role model.

"It was behind that whimsical landmark that Kern and Karnazes had taken turns posing for nude photographs after the race. "In the pictures," says Kern, "the pole is very strategically placed."

This gets even better. Here is Karnazes quoted on the talent level of his competitors in the South Pole marathon.

"He did not lack for confidence. After the first group training run outside Patriot Hills, Karnazes recalls, "I realized there would be no honor in racing against these guys. We weren't on the same level."

And yet he got beat by one of those guys who was apparently inferior to him. :)