Agree, can never rule AFD out, especially as it's over there home course!
Jermaine could do it for third fastest...have a feeling that if he runs Harrow's Adam Bowden and he would be very close though...
Jermaine really impressed me at Southern 12 stage though, very good leg.
oink!
S: NEB
N: Salford
M: Birchfield
which team?? wrote:
...and which team would that be?
I'd say on the winning team.
Bels to tear it up as usual - unbeatable in the southerns and nationals. Mark my words.
The Insider
Anyone know the belgrave team for the southerns - i understand it is shit hot?
Jermaine Mays will not run the 3rd fastest - he hasnt been training well recently. Saw him struggling on the track this week trying to do 400's. Think he has one leg longer than the other. he runs round in cirles when trying to go in a straight line.
who have wells got ?
Little johnny tickler, Eddy Uppem, Bill Riddles, Farmer Ted, Sammy Sidwell and Colin Murples. A winning combination im sure you'll agree. Especially Farmer Ted.
They have Richard Head in reserve too
wochinski wrote:
Winchester have just got some new recruits and could be a force - depends on whether they have any troubles with bans imposed by SEAA though.
winchester do indeed have several new recruits, though unfortunately none of them have clearence from the SEAA to be able to compete.
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wochinski wrote:
Winchester have just got some new recruits and could be a force - depends on whether they have any troubles with bans imposed by SEAA though.
winchester do indeed have several new recruits, though unfortunately none of them have clearence from the SEAA to be able to compete."
recruits is the wrong word. all of the "new" winchester runners have been in the winchester system for quite some time. training there and being coached by a winchester coach. Its an excellent set up and was only natural that the athletes training togetehr eventually wanted to race together too. but as has been said there will be no new faces in the Winchester team this weekend.
The ladies should continue to be strong though.
Mays, Bowden, Thompson, Tickner etc.
These guys are, or could be, senior GB internationals, and competitive ones to boot.
Is it really in their long term interests to be arsing around sound army base in September, or round some Northern park.
Dont recall the guys who top the UK all time lists worrying about 4 mile road relays in the autumn. Foster would have been sat on his arse getting fat (before he took that up full time upon retirement).
Shouldnt anyone with any serious ambitions next summer be thinking that perhaps getting in shape in September / October perhaps isn;t doing them any favours?
you dont need to be in tip top shape and many wont be. for many its just the first hard blow out after a long summer. i wouldnt have thought many will be focusing too much on this and easing the training down much if at all!
It never did Foster, Moorcoft, Denmark, Lewis, Martin, Daloway, Bristow, Spedding, Forster, Jones, Rose etc... all ran the relays, they may not have been in top shape but they did it and it didn't do them any harm.
SOS+BJ are probably in a quick team.
12 stage yes - 6 stage, wouldnt bet on it.
Newhams team is very strong. Money is on them!
Mo Farah, Moumin Glee, Stephen Hepples, Mark Warmby, Tom Bilham, Dave Mitchinson (Stuart Major).
Bels 2nd.
AFD 3rd. Moreau, Ashton, Thompson, Robinson, Quinn, Vernon?
No disrespect to the guys you mention here (just you!), but they are not going to be competitive international GB runners are they!?
These guys and lots of others would be much better off concentrating on sucsess on a domestic level FIRST then aim for international honours. All the 'old' names mentioned ran well in all the relays before becoming big international names - whatever time of year.
You are probably of the school of thought that you should be on a 'break' just now, having ran a 14:40 5k two months ago!
Good luck in the relays guys.
Yet again an attempt to debate a sensible way forward for distance running in the UK is brought back down to the 'if you havent run fast what do you know' level. By that definition no-one bar the likes of Coe & ovett should be allowed to make suggestions.
The post was asking whether racing in September would be to the detriment of longer term success i.e. next summer and beyond?
I would suggest most of the guys mentioned more than have the ability to step up to good international class, certainly the 'chase boys seem to have the tools to go into the low 8.20s, judging by their performances at shorter distances. However if you're focussing on racing all the time, where does the base building come in? Just because these guys aren YET at the level they cold be, I'm sure several months of high level training could help them make the move, rather than always going for the next race. Most of them would have been on the track within the last month.
You're the one showing disrespect by suggesting:
"they are not going to be competitive international GB runners are they!?"
Why when someone tries to have a discussion and make a suggestion should you 'disrespect' them. Why not make a valid argument to refute the point?
No-one said the 'old school' never ran the relays - in April at the 12 stage. I'm not sure the 6 stage would ever feature too highly in priorities.
Put it this way - you can bet most of the worlds top 50 5K runners will not be thinking baout racing road relays at this time of year - they'll be at home, recovering before piling in the miles big time, and coming out and looking to IMPROVE next season. Just because you may not run as fast as them, doesnt mean you should ignore the evidence. The point isn't really about GB success or International success or whatever, its about the best way for the better guys to get better.