While some say no difference, that is not my personal experience. My resting heart rate averaged 3-4 BPM lower if I turned in at 9pm and got 8 hours of sleep. I was never genetically low, if I hit 50 BPM in the morning I was ecstatic, even when running between 85 and 100 mpw.
Depends how you're using your time. I'm much more likely to be getting up and getting to work from 5-7am than I am to be getting work done from 9-11pm. In my experience, at a certain point at night I'm just watching tv or on my phone, even when I tell myself I'm going to work. For others it may be the opposite
Depends how you're using your time. I'm much more likely to be getting up and getting to work from 5-7am than I am to be getting work done from 9-11pm. In my experience, at a certain point at night I'm just watching tv or on my phone, even when I tell myself I'm going to work. For others it may be the opposite
Agree with this. Although personally I've been hitting closer to a 10pm-6am schedule. 9am is just a little early for me to call it a night.
Well I've got one for you - real men sleep 11-5 and are ducking tired all the time but we still get it done and train.
I need a nap...
I am a 10:30 pm to 4:30 am guy myself. In the morning, I have time to drink my coffee, drop a deuce, get a workout in, and get to the office on time. I'll sneak in a power nap during the day.
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Also worth noting that there are genuine genetic differences in chronotype, i.e. night owls and early birds and those in between. 9-5 might work perfectly well for some people but be a real struggle for others. Studies have found that those with night owl genotype are underrepresented in sports like road running and triathlon, presumably because the race times (and perhaps training times) are so miserable for them.
Also, chronotype shifts with age, with teenagers shifted later.
I think a night owl is better off with staying with what is natural for them and making adjustment only on race days. I rarely go to bed before midnight, and if I have to, I cannot fall asleep without taking sleep aid.
I have read somewhere that one night of poor quality sleep does not significantly hurt one's race performance. Trying to constantly fight natural sleep pattern would be much worse.
Also worth noting that there are genuine genetic differences in chronotype, i.e. night owls and early birds and those in between. 9-5 might work perfectly well for some people but be a real struggle for others. Studies have found that those with night owl genotype are underrepresented in sports like road running and triathlon, presumably because the race times (and perhaps training times) are so miserable for them.
Also, chronotype shifts with age, with teenagers shifted later.
I think a night owl is better off with staying with what is natural for them and making adjustment only on race days. I rarely go to bed before midnight, and if I have to, I cannot fall asleep without taking sleep aid.
I have read somewhere that one night of poor quality sleep does not significantly hurt one's race performance. Trying to constantly fight natural sleep pattern would be much worse.
Agree with this. Doesn’t matter what time I get up - I would find it very tricky to get to sleep at 9pm. It’s just too early for me.
Everyone is different. The most important thing is to stick to the routine. I tend to do 11-7. Yes I need a lot of sleep but I’m also awake for about an hour in the night.
I actually feel ill if I try and get up much earlier. Can do it as a one off for a race and that’s fine.
The difference is you're probably more productive from 5am-7am than you would be from 9pm-11pm... So go to bed early and be more productive early in the day
No effect! I ran my best times when I slept from 1 am to 8 am in grad school. You might find road racing tough if you are used to still being in bed when most races are already underway, but the tiredness wears off and you can nap after or catch up sleep the next morning.
I'm jealous. Grad school was the toughest time of my career. Barely found time to get in decent training. Since getting a regular 9-5, I've set my fastest times in almost every event 5k-marathon (sadly, I don't think I have the speed any more to challenge my mile time)
It was my toughest time academically but the easiest to get in my training. I could essentially set my own schedule. I studied, researched, wrote from like 4 to 11 pm generally. When I had to work night shift at work I seemed to get in pretty good training after sleeping until 1 pm too.
I would recommend reading 'The Circadian Code' by Satchin Panda. There is much more to the timing of eating and sleeping and how it interfaces/interacts with other daily activities. The is a very important part of successful training and one shouldn't totally rely on 'shoot from the hip' message board'rs.