Welcome to running. Why we live and train in L.A. is because our national OGs spent money on themsleves. They refuse to rent a nice place for us back home and tell us L.A. is where the sport is centered.
Only a few sprint groups are centered in LA. Easy trip for the mules coming in from TJ. 🤣💉
Sounds like the family lied to the OP by saying he got rejected after travelling. This says he knew.
Reading through the facts, it seems pretty likely that someone in Indiana complained about the kid racing at Arcadia. If that’s your takeaway from this discussion, maybe it was you. Anyone trying to block a kid who just won the 2-mile at NBNI from competing at Arcadia should take a hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why they’re so bitter and vindictive.
Welcome to running. Why we live and train in L.A. is because our national OGs spent money on themsleves. They refuse to rent a nice place for us back home and tell us L.A. is where the sport is centered.
$5000/mo rent. Can't afford that. L.A. is a pipe dream for all of us. Only 1 out of a million make it to L.A.
New topic math? LA metro is about 4% of US which means 1 out of 25, not 1 in 1 million. You haven't heard of most cities that have 1 in 1 million of US population.
Sounds like the family lied to the OP by saying he got rejected after travelling. This says he knew.
Reading through the facts, it seems pretty likely that someone in Indiana complained about the kid racing at Arcadia. If that’s your takeaway from this discussion, maybe it was you. Anyone trying to block a kid who just won the 2-mile at NBNI from competing at Arcadia should take a hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why they’re so bitter and vindictive.
OP said family was returning from Arcadia after finding out kid could not run. But the facts laid out said they knew before leaving. Guessing they fought it all the way to race time. Many states don't allow it.
If somebody did complain - my HOPE is that they simply wanted an explanation because they wanted their athlete to be able to compete, and Seitz's name got dragged into it. If it was pure spite than that is really unfortunate.
To add to Unc P's excellent post: in 2017 when Fendel was suspended, that suspension was eventually overturned.
I was wondering why Seitz just didn't race at Arcadia and just accept whatever punishment the IHSAA handed out, even if it meant no racing this Spring. I didn't think about the fact that the meet director would jeopardize eligibility for all entrants by allowing someone expressly prohibited by a State Association.
Reading through the facts, it seems pretty likely that someone in Indiana complained about the kid racing at Arcadia. If that’s your takeaway from this discussion, maybe it was you. Anyone trying to block a kid who just won the 2-mile at NBNI from competing at Arcadia should take a hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why they’re so bitter and vindictive.
OP said family was returning from Arcadia after finding out kid could not run. But the facts laid out said they knew before leaving. Guessing they fought it all the way to race time. Many states don't allow it.
The way you’re fixating on semantics to twist people’s words and even going so far as to disparage the family and call them liars, comes across as unnecessarily combative and, frankly, in poor taste.
The original post clearly states they were approved and “spent several thousand dollars to get to sunny Southern California.” It does not say they traveled before learning he couldn’t run. A follow-up clarifies: “Following this approval, the Seitz family purchased non-refundable travel.”
It’s pretty clear they booked the trip after receiving approval, and only later found out that approval was revoked. Trying to spin that into something else feels less like a genuine misunderstanding and more like being deliberately argumentative.
No. Every single person who read the original post thought that the family traveled to the meet and then got the rug pulled out. So it was the OP who chose his words in a way to gather sympathy while misleading the readers. It was either the OP who did it or it was the family who misled him.
You don’t speak for “every single person” who read the post, there’s no way you could possibly know how everyone interpreted it, and presenting your opinion as consensus doesn’t make it one.
More importantly, you still seem oddly fixated on finding a way to paint the family as dishonest. Even if there were some ambiguity in wording, jumping straight to accusations of misleading people, even calling them liars, says more about your approach than theirs.
And none of this changes the central issue you keep sidestepping: a kid was approved to race, made plans based on that approval, and then had it revoked, losing the opportunity to compete. That’s the real problem here.
Whether you want to nitpick the exact sequence of how it was phrased doesn’t change the reality of the situation or the impact on the family. At this point, it feels less like you’re trying to clarify facts and more like you’re determined to assign blame where it doesn’t belong.
No. Every single person who read the original post thought that the family traveled to the meet and then got the rug pulled out. So it was the OP who chose his words in a way to gather sympathy while misleading the readers. It was either the OP who did it or it was the family who misled him.
Just grow up. There is really no reason for your posts except jealousy. Tell us if our re the one that complained.
Indy man, I still appreciate your inside Indiana perspective. But Indiana wronged this athlete. Indiana can do better.
In my past life as an athlete, I benefited immensely from the support of great coaches, great environment, great extended community. Those folks would've petitioned until the starters gun fired. At least one coach has shared that they had petitioned on behalf of athletes to just get into Arcadia.
In this case, a state federation appears to have approved, then reneged on that approval, then expanded that disapproval to every Indiana athlete who might've wanted to compete in the most competitive event in the country.
This will likely also happen next year. And for years to come. THAT'S what has me so riled up.
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Being around Indiana, there is also some context missing from the greater picture.
Great family. Great kid. And I don’t want to misrepresent anything.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but last year at Arcadia, this athlete wasn’t competing in the IHSAA track season so that would give reason for doing Arcadia without worrying about eligibility issues for the 2025 Track Season.
Being around Indiana, there is also some context missing from the greater picture.
Great family. Great kid. And I don’t want to misrepresent anything.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but last year at Arcadia, this athlete wasn’t competing in the IHSAA track season so that would give reason for doing Arcadia without worrying about eligibility issues for the 2025 Track Season.
This, from 2019, may be old/obsolete, but it looks like IHSAA also "prohibits student-athletes from participating in competitions outside school-sponsored events":
By rule, the Indiana High School Athletic Association (IHSAA) prohibits student-athletes from participating in competitions outside school-sponsored events. Rule 15 of the 2018-2019 IHSAA’s bylaws states, “Participation by a...
Bottom line. They booked everything and still used this as a family spring break trip, is what it sounds like to me. Which was most likely a big part of this trip in the first place.
