But when it gets down to it, it's a disgruntled athlete's word over her coach's word. If there was proof, indisputable proof, then that'd be different. But...there isn't.
The method (IV) was not forbidden in delivering the L carnitine- it was that the amount used IV was greater than what is allowed (50cc?). Of course, Farah didn't remember getting one of these transfusions until his lawyers encouraged him to return to the deposition and to state that he had "misremembered"; and Ritz was still allowed to walk away squeaky clean. The only one in trouble over that was the man that had been hired as an assistant (that eventually reported all the strange things he'd seen regarding Rupp). The possession of test wasn't the problem either- it was that he was using the gel on his son (who had no prescription to use this) to test the limits that would pop positive. I was unaware of the "tampering" claim- what was that in relation to?And did Salazar ever admit to using the testosterone during his career? I'm honestly asking, as the prozac generated quite a bit of interest after his ultra win.
AAA decision:
Here, the Panel found the following violations of the Code: (a) Administration of a Prohibited Method (with respect to an infusion in excess of the applicable limit), (b) Tampering and/or attempted tampering with NOP athletes’ doping control process, and (c) Trafficking and/or Attempted Trafficking of testosterone. Accordingly, the Panel finds that the period of Ineligibility shall be four years from the date of this decision.
CAS decision:
Mr. Alberto Salazar committed the following anti-doping rule violations: a. Possession (2009 WADC Article 2.6) of testosterone in furtherance of the Testosterone Experiment; b. Complicity (2009 WADC Article 2.8) in Dr. Jeffrey Brown’s Administration of a Prohibited Method to Mr. Steve Magness; c. Tampering (2009 WADC Article 2.5) with the Doping Control Process with respect to the issue of L-carnitine infusions/syringes.
The tampering was him telling his athletes to lie about their infusions.
But when it gets down to it, it's a disgruntled athlete's word over her coach's word. If there was proof, indisputable proof, then that'd be different. But...there isn't.
I am not taking sides either, but he was banned for that, and still is. You'd have to ask safesport why they sided with the athlete.
But when it gets down to it, it's a disgruntled athlete's word over her coach's word. If there was proof, indisputable proof, then that'd be different. But...there isn't.
I am not taking sides either, but he was banned for that, and still is. You'd have to ask safesport why they sided with the athlete.
I truly didn't think you were.
I was just pointing out that I don't agree with that part of what happened to him. Sorry, not enough proof. The other stuff that you mentioned seemed to have sealed his fate.
When NONE of his athletes were ever publicly announced as testing positive?
and does anyone know what he’s doing all these years later?
It’s unlikely he’s found anything to replace coaching. From age 14, his obsession and passion was for racing and then coaching, but now, he has been banned from the sport. I doubt he is enjoying his retirement.
When NONE of his athletes were ever publicly announced as testing positive?
and does anyone know what he’s doing all these years later?
Actually, there was one NOP athlete found in violation of anti-doping rules: Steve Magness lol. Read the findings of the report and then try to convince yourself justice was served. It could not be more obvious that Salazar was scapegoated to protect the athletes. Don’t forget there were some big names on that team (Farah, Rupp, Hassan, Brazier).
When NONE of his athletes were ever publicly announced as testing positive?
and does anyone know what he’s doing all these years later?
It’s unlikely he’s found anything to replace coaching. From age 14, his obsession and passion was for racing and then coaching, but now, he has been banned from the sport. I doubt he is enjoying his retirement.
He should write another book. Despite all the controversy he definitely had a system that worked miracles. He developed Rupp from a young soccer player to one of the best distance runners in the world. He took Farah from being an also-ran in championships to being one of the great championship runners of all time. He took an underperforming Ritzenhein and immediately tuned him up for a 15-20s PR and American Record in the 5000m. His system worked.
Before anyone brings up drugs, etc, you have to admit that Farah was running against a bunch of other runners who were drugged/cheating to the max. Farah was better prepared than them. I think Salazar and NOP broke huge new ground in the area of long term athlete development.
If anything, I'd just like to see Galen Rupp's lifetime running log with in depth explanation of why he was doing what he was doing when he was doing it. This should include why he selected the races he did, etc.
Actually, there was one NOP athlete found in violation of anti-doping rules: Steve Magness lol. Read the findings of the report and then try to convince yourself justice was served. It could not be more obvious that Salazar was scapegoated to protect the athletes. Don’t forget there were some big names on that team (Farah, Rupp, Hassan, Brazier).
As a matter of fact, USADA was also convinced that Rupp and Ritz also violated the rules. See for example the evidence discussed on pages 57 - 72 of the AAA decision, including the "altered records":
The disturbing pattern of the altered records of Dr. Brown, along with Dr. Maguadog’s non-credible testimony, were taken into consideration by the Panel. These alterations occurred much later than the infusions (once USADA started its investigation in 2013) and would seem to indicate that Dr. Brown and Dr. Maguadog had some later concerns about their conduct, which could have included a concern about not noting the volume in the medical records in the first place.
Yet ultimately AAA decided in a 2 : 1 vote "that USADA has not met its burden of proof with respect to the Attempted Administration charge as it relates to the NOP Athletes" (point 234, p. 72), meaning Rupp and Ritz indeed skated away scot-free.
It’s unlikely he’s found anything to replace coaching. From age 14, his obsession and passion was for racing and then coaching, but now, he has been banned from the sport. I doubt he is enjoying his retirement.
Actually he can coach again since 2023, because his doping ban expired in 2023, and his lifetime safesport ban only applies to the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement. Now he is allowed to coach in high school, in the NCAA, and foreign athletes (think Canova and Berardelli). But he does not, it seems.
When NONE of his athletes were ever publicly announced as testing positive?
and does anyone know what he’s doing all these years later?
It’s unlikely he’s found anything to replace coaching. From age 14, his obsession and passion was for racing and then coaching, but now, he has been banned from the sport. I doubt he is enjoying his retirement.
I would guess Alberto actually is enjoying his retirement. Why wouldn’t he be? He knows he is responsible for turning around US distance running misfortunes, for helping US runners believe they could compete at the highest levels. As far as massaging Kara, that whole deal was greatly exaggerated, and Alberto is better off retired.
He was banned for life by SafeSport. Trying to change the narrative by demanding to know when he was 'convicted of this felony' is the move of a beta incel living in his parents' bedroom claiming 'it was a rigged election.'
It’s unlikely he’s found anything to replace coaching. From age 14, his obsession and passion was for racing and then coaching, but now, he has been banned from the sport. I doubt he is enjoying his retirement.
Actually he can coach again since 2023, because his doping ban expired in 2023, and his lifetime safesport ban only applies to the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement. Now he is allowed to coach in high school, in the NCAA, and foreign athletes (think Canova and Berardelli). But he does not, it seems.
After coaching world class runners I don’t know how much interest he would have for HS level. If he pursued a college position, the NCAA might take some action to prevent it.
Regardless, I think he would prefer to maintain a low profile. The damage has been done and can’t be fixed.
Actually he can coach again since 2023, because his doping ban expired in 2023, and his lifetime safesport ban only applies to the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement. Now he is allowed to coach in high school, in the NCAA, and foreign athletes (think Canova and Berardelli). But he does not, it seems.
After coaching world class runners I don’t know how much interest he would have for HS level. If he pursued a college position, the NCAA might take some action to prevent it.
Regardless, I think he would prefer to maintain a low profile. The damage has been done and can’t be fixed.
Actually, Alberto had a couple notable high school athletes he coached. They were also just world class runners as well.
Actually he can coach again since 2023, because his doping ban expired in 2023, and his lifetime safesport ban only applies to the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement. Now he is allowed to coach in high school, in the NCAA, and foreign athletes (think Canova and Berardelli). But he does not, it seems.
After coaching world class runners I don’t know how much interest he would have for HS level. If he pursued a college position, the NCAA might take some action to prevent it.
Regardless, I think he would prefer to maintain a low profile. The damage has been done and can’t be fixed.
Reminds me of another coach who would be smart to go - low profile since the damage has been done
It’s unlikely he’s found anything to replace coaching. From age 14, his obsession and passion was for racing and then coaching, but now, he has been banned from the sport. I doubt he is enjoying his retirement.
I would guess Alberto actually is enjoying his retirement. Why wouldn’t he be? He knows he is responsible for turning around US distance running misfortunes, for helping US runners believe they could compete at the highest levels. As far as massaging Kara, that whole deal was greatly exaggerated, and Alberto is better off retired.
You can’t be serious. He effed up his dream job and subsequently his reputation. A one of a kind runner and legendary coach yet people, including you, are discussing his massages.
He’s not that old and he wants to back to coaching world class runners, but he can’t.
I would guess Alberto actually is enjoying his retirement. Why wouldn’t he be? He knows he is responsible for turning around US distance running misfortunes, for helping US runners believe they could compete at the highest levels. As far as massaging Kara, that whole deal was greatly exaggerated, and Alberto is better off retired.
You can’t be serious. He effed up his dream job and subsequently his reputation. A one of a kind runner and legendary coach yet people, including you, are discussing his massages.
He’s not that old and he wants to back to coaching world class runners, but he can’t.
No I bet he is happy in retirement. Alberto will be 68 in August and he has had health issues. He is much better off retired, although I would agree his retirement came earlier than he wanted, but now it is a good thing.