“The Ten” is ruined

the 10ks are smack in the middle of the high school meet. Check the schedule.

the meet is ruined

Boys 3200 Run ELITE HOKA Sec 1
Start List
Saturday 7:05 PM
Girls 3200 Run ELITE HOKA Sec 1
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Saturday 7:20 PM
Womens 10000 Run PRO
Start List
Saturday 8:00 PM
Mens 10000 Run PRO
Start List
Saturday 8:38 PM
Boys 1600 Run ELITE HOKA Sec 1
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Saturday 8:45 PM
Girls 1600 Run ELITE HOKA Sec 1
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Saturday 8:55 PM
Womens 10000 Run PRO HOKA
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Saturday 9:35 PM
Mens 10000 Run PRO

Once again, more lies. It's the other way around. There are two high school races in the middle of the four 10ks. So it's 10 minutes of high school races and TWO HOURS of pro races. Stop making things up.

Are the WMM's ruined because 99% of the runners are hobby joggers? Without the non professional runners there's no money to pay professional/super fast runners.

Again, this is exactly why the top pros stopped showing up. It went from a legit pro 10K meet to a mixed meet trying to do two completely different things at once and it diluted the product. No one is anti–high school racing, but combining it with what was supposed to be a high-performance pro event just doesn’t work. Different audiences, different purposes.
Pros want a fast, controlled environment built for elite racing not a meet schedule built around high school heats. That’s why you’re already hearing about a new pro-focused meet in April because the athletes will go where the setup actually prioritizes them.

No, you aren't hearing about "a new pro-focused meet in April." You just hate The TEN and you decided to lie again.

Why do any of you respond to such an obvious troll?

The purpose of this meet is the 10,000 PERIOD

I will be anxious to compare the 10k times from this “new pro meet” in April. If you are talking about a MD meet it is not the same.

Just like that schedule buddy

again no one hates high school races , but they ruined “The Ten”

And realistically, I don’t know how viable a pro meet built and sold around a marquee 10k would be from a financial perspective.

People try to hate LA for having everything important. It's spring and summer the year around. No humidity.

The Ten absolutely nailed it from 2021–2024, no debate. It was one of the few meets in the U.S. that actually delivered a true pro 10K environment and people showed up because of that.
Last year they changed the formula, and it clearly took away from what made it great. This isn’t about “hating” high school racing, no one does. It’s just reality that a high school meet and a high-performance pro meet serve completely different purposes. When you try to merge them, the pro side suffers.
That’s why the top guys are already looking elsewhere. With a new pro-focused meet coming, they’re going to choose the setup that’s actually built for them.

They're using a high school track. They probably need to have events for high schoolers if they want the meet to continue.

There aren’t many top pros this year because they cant get the standard for Worlds until next year. Thats the simple truth.

Those are 2 completely different things. The reason that particular high school track at JSerra is being used, is because during the pandemic the college tracks and the public high school tracks didn't want to let Sound Running use their tracks because of pandemic restrictions. But JSerra, being a private high school, was allowed to do whatever they wanted and they let Sound Running use their track. It worked out well, so Sound Running keeps using that track.

I suspect that the reason why they have more high school races than they did in the past is because 1) the entrance fees bring in much needed revenue, and 2) the high school runners, their parents, and their coaches are in the stands to watch the pro meets and it increases the number of spectators. (I went to a pro only meet at JSerra high school a few years ago and there were less than 100 spectators. Very few people come out for pro only meets unless someone very popular like Sydney McLaughlin is in the meet.)

So blame Kara and Desi

I love the idea of high school meets leading into pro meets. It's a great way to develop talent and bring in long-term fans.

I suspect that this thread is mostly full of salty Shelbo haters who want to see her fail tonight.

Great post!

I will also add that sponsor money plays a role here. HOKA is putting up the dosh that makes the event and the prize pool possible. They want more than 100 spectators present and having high school races not only boosts attendance, it also gives them the opportunityfor brand awareness and to showcase their product lines to prospective customers.

LRC attracts a lot of curmudgeons, fools, and trolls because they get a free bullhorn to spew whatever nonsense they wish without fear of banishment or retaliation.

This is straight chat GPT. Kind of pathetic to use it for your argument in a running forum. The "that's not ____, that's _____" format is very telling

The two early 10Ks are garbage. All they do is make the good 10Ks an hour later.