I once ran a 23.7 with a flying start in practice. I ran 1:54 a few days later. I think the Coop is definitely going to run sub 1:53 with that kind of speed. Possibly sub 1:50.
let's not get ahead of ourselves here... he's only 17...
Prediction: He will have the WR within the next 3 years and will be the first to dip under 1:40 within 5 years.
My prediction is that he'll be in world record shape at some point this year, and will actually get the world record either this year or next year barring major injury. Sub 1:40 comes 2-3 years from now (again barring injury).
Though it's an incredibly tough thing to guess, I could see him breaking 1:40 this year, and I could also see him never breaking the world record. The range for his future performances is incredibly wide.
I dont think you should. The bigger evidence is that Cooper's run fast enough in blocks at 400 (46.30), that its clear he can blaze a 200. He's only getting better and that was 10 months ago. It's a question of when not if for him running sub-46 outdoors, and he might go well under that too.
Eagerly waiting for the three Algerians (they are 3) humiliate your prodigy at the indoor Worlds. For the sake of justice against the arrogants in Earth.
45 second 400 runners are sub 21.0 runners. 21.5 is what like people run to hit 47, it’s really not that fast even for an elite 800 runner. He ran 22.1 and 47.6 on year, why on earth do you think he’s running only half a second faster if you think he can do 45.5?
Though it's an incredibly tough thing to guess, I could see him breaking 1:40 this year, and I could also see him never breaking the world record. The range for his future performances is incredibly wide.
Going to pretend you meant 1:42. Sub 1:40 is like 44.0 speed and simultaneously 3:30 endurance or shifted to some extremes . Also we need him to accomplish something internationally, where USA organizers don’t get privileges to inform and comfort athletes of secret information and preferable rounds.
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I think a lot of you people underestimate what kind of speed it takes to run 45.5 and especially 45.0. These are 21.0 / 20.5 speed requirements minimum
this is a fantastic time, i think he might go 21 low with 2 weeks focus only.
a 15 year Coe ran 22 flat, beaten by a 16 old ovett in 21.7. on a track that might not be the fastest.
such is goat talent.
in comparison with those african ladies with the distance workd records and their high school 5 minute miles.
and that is what they did.
That isn't correct. Ovett's supposed 21.7 (often believed to be a 22.7) was in a National League event at Barking in 1975 when he was 19 (about to be 20). It would have been hand timed from a standing start.
There is no competitive 200m mark for Sebastian Coe, and certainly not when he was 15. He was initially viewed as a distance runner and his English Schools Championship was at 3000m in 1973. His first sprint recorded is 400m in 51.8 in his club championship in 51.8. The following year he ran 36.2 for 300m in a Northern League match.
I think a lot of you people underestimate what kind of speed it takes to run 45.5 and especially 45.0. These are 21.0 / 20.5 speed requirements minimum
I think he was roughly in 21.0 and 45.0 shape when he ran his 1:42, right now I'd predict he's in 21 low shape, so worse speed but with better endurance, I'd guess 1:42 mid to high.
I think a lot of you people underestimate what kind of speed it takes to run 45.5 and especially 45.0. These are 21.0 / 20.5 speed requirements minimum
Case in point: Amos ran 44.99 off 21.34. The effect of block start is tremendous.
Don't pretend. Acting as though improving by 2.3 seconds in the 800m from 16 to 17 years of age is an impossibility doesn't make much sense, especially when considering his progression over the past couple years, including this indoor season. He hasn't shown any signs of slowing his progression, and is about 3-4 seconds ahead of where he was at at this point last year. If that takes a 44.0 to do it so be it.
He's already stated that he's not peaking for indoors, yet he's already most likely in high 1:42 shape. Not saying it's likely he goes sub 1:40 this season, but it may be in the cards.
Don't pretend. Acting as though improving by 2.3 seconds in the 800m from 16 to 17 years of age is an impossibility doesn't make much sense, especially when considering his progression over the past couple years, including this indoor season. He hasn't shown any signs of slowing his progression, and is about 3-4 seconds ahead of where he was at at this point last year. If that takes a 44.0 to do it so be it.
He's already stated that he's not peaking for indoors, yet he's already most likely in high 1:42 shape. Not saying it's likely he goes sub 1:40 this season, but it may be in the cards.
I also think the way that he runs his fastest races indicates world record potential. To kick down nearly the entire field in the last 200m of a 1:42 race last year and look fairly calm while doing it was unbelievable to witness. It feels a bit early to me in his progression to predict a WR this year, but it's tough to completely disregard the possibility given that U20 record in February.
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this is a fantastic time, i think he might go 21 low with 2 weeks focus only.
a 15 year Coe ran 22 flat, beaten by a 16 old ovett in 21.7. on a track that might not be the fastest.
such is goat talent.
in comparison with those african ladies with the distance workd records and their high school 5 minute miles.
and that is what they did.
Coe did not run 22.0 lol.
Coe was relatively slow until 18 years old which is why the drug rumors are so plausible.
Junior 400m Times
51.8 at age 16 (1973), suggesting solid speed for an emerging middle-distance runner. 51.5 (May 1978) and 51.0 (Sept 1978) in shorter races or segments. 51.37 split (March 1977, European Indoor Championships relay leg). Later career best of 46.87 (1979, age 22), but juniors focused less on pure 400m.
Coe didn’t break 50 until 18. Which is like 23.0 at 18