Wow. Woody Kincaid and the Japanese guy just got lapped. Whenn you get lapped in a 5k, is it time to hang 'em up?
He's going to break 13:00. 12:28 with a lap to go.
Wow. Woody Kincaid and the Japanese guy just got lapped. Whenn you get lapped in a 5k, is it time to hang 'em up?
He's going to break 13:00. 12:28 with a lap to go.
Woody is unfortunately done
Did you even read OPs post? Nur was a Rabbit for Wolfe.
Good, not great from Wolfe. Probably could have found a few seconds with some comp but really shows how insane the 12:44 Fisher did last year with less pacing help.
3000/2mile and 5000s have kind of come back to earth this year.
Fisher, Hocker, Klecker all set PRs indoors; others very close to their outdoor PRs.
Don't say they are close to being the same shape now as in summer. Just don't go there. It is the banked turns. An indoor banked turn takes less energy than an outdoor non-banked turn.
That's mechanical assist, and well beyond how it was in the past. Indoor is faster, and if it was the main event instead of the offseason, all the WRs would be there, 800m to 10,000m
If Parker Wolfe goes sub 13, he too will have set his PR indoors during base phase.
12:59.03.
That was all out. Nur tried to give him a handshake and Wolfe just fell over.
Evans Kuri 13:27.21
Kincaid - 13:30.30
Nori of Japan - 13:32.07
Guts out a 12:59.09. Is the standard 12:58 or sub-13?
high school xc coach wrote:
3000/2mile and 5000s have kind of come back to earth this year.
No standards to hit this year
high school xc coach wrote:
3000/2mile and 5000s have kind of come back to earth this year.
Only because Grant & Nico have yet to race those distances.
Peach Pit wrote:
Guts out a 12:59.09. Is the standard 12:58 or sub-13?
Haven't posted for 2027 yet, thought it doesn't matter as 5k times don't cover over 2 years like the 10k ones do.
blahblahblah3 wrote:
Woody is unfortunately done
done trying to match his indoor PR outdoors, that's for sure.
So Parker made it. That's at least 5 of the US sub-13 list with their 5000 PRs indoors
I don't care who gets mad, but at this point, it needs to be outdoor to really count
11 second PR from Wolfe. His PR was somehow still from that fairly tactical OT race in 2024.....
Dirtrunner wrote:
Good, not great from Wolfe. Probably could have found a few seconds with some comp but really shows how insane the 12:44 Fisher did last year with less pacing help.
true but Grant is 6 years older than Parker. gonna be interesting to watch Parker slowly build over the years and keep shaving time off his 5K. if Smith is able to keep him and Nico together as training partners they're gonna push each other to some insane results.
LazyHazy wrote:
true but Grant is 6 years older than Parker. gonna be interesting to watch Parker slowly build over the years and keep shaving time off his 5K. if Smith is able to keep him and Nico together as training partners they're gonna push each other to some insane results.
Cole worked hard to run 12:57 at BU last year and then beat Grant at Trials. Not saying Parker is going to do that, but time-trialing a 5K solo is its own skill set. I’d trust Kejelcha, Fisher or Almgren to do it, and not Hocker, Gressier or Luis (when healthy). But in a championship race can’t say the second trio couldn’t win.
at least put an * on indoor wrote:
Fisher, Hocker, Klecker all set PRs indoors; others very close to their outdoor PRs.
Don't say they are close to being the same shape now as in summer. Just don't go there. It is the banked turns. An indoor banked turn takes less energy than an outdoor non-banked turn.
That's mechanical assist, and well beyond how it was in the past. Indoor is faster, and if it was the main event instead of the offseason, all the WRs would be there, 800m to 10,000m
If Parker Wolfe goes sub 13, he too will have set his PR indoors during base phase.
Have you ever run on a banked indoor track? Lane 1 is only the slightest of bank. The turns are tight and tough at fast paces, but the tracks return more energy.
It does seem like 3k+ the track surface does start to make indoor faster. But we can stop with the hyperbole. No one of note has a 800 PR that is faster indoors. And that's not going to change.
7:39 pace through one k
Wolf Man hit the 12:59....but he's on the warpath to 12:40.
Sam Ruthe 7:43
llort wrote:
Have you ever run on a banked indoor track? Lane 1 is only the slightest of bank. The turns are tight and tough at fast legs, but the tracks return more energy.
It does seem like 3k+ the track surface does start to make indoor faster. But we can stop with the hyperbole. No one of note has a 800 PR that is faster indoors. And that's not going to change.
The bank is the same for most of the curve in every lane, at BU and every other track I’ve ever run on. The transition zones can be a little weird if you’re in an outer lane, but no such issues in lane one.
I believe the bank is set up to be ideal for 4:00 mile pace, so almost perfect if you’re running a sub 13:00 5k.