Sam Ruthe Flotrack Workout

Alf Tupper miler wrote:

headstronglivs wrote:

Still can't comprehend why you'd travel across the world at the start of year 12 (school is well under way) when aussie is only 3 hours away and they could travel on a friday night post school and race 800s against guys at a similar level but maybe this will soon be the norm for top kids. Hopefully they've looked at the blue print of swimming which has been dealing with phenoms at his age for decades. But and it's a big but 3.48.8 is completely nuts and a massive achievement .

Travel to Australia at this time of the year and it's outdoor tracks, temperatures in excess of 90 deg F, wind and competition Sam would havre no problem putting away. Australia's fit and healthy sub 3.50 milers are mostly in the Northern Hemisphere this time of the year doing exactly what Sam is doing.

TheRealTaro wrote:

workout champ wrote:

After watching that video, I question how much room for improvement Ruthe has remaining. He doesn't look like a typical 16 year old at all. Looks like he already has a fully developed young adult body. He's obviously gifted, but I think he completed puberty early. He's already tall, athletic, and has a deep voice.

The same is true of Cooper Lutkenhaus. Early physical maturation is really the only plausible explanation for these kinds of performances from 16 year olds. Besides the magic shoes and bicarb, of course.

headstronglivs wrote:

Still can't comprehend why you'd travel across the world at the start of year 12 (school is well under way) when aussie is only 3 hours away and they could travel on a friday night post school and race 800s against guys at a similar level but maybe this will soon be the norm for top kids. Hopefully they've looked at the blue print of swimming which has been dealing with phenoms at his age for decades. But and it's a big but 3.48.8 is completely nuts and a massive achievement .

Jagg wrote:

headstronglivs wrote:

Still can't comprehend why you'd travel across the world at the start of year 12 (school is well under way) when aussie is only 3 hours away and they could travel on a friday night post school and race 800s against guys at a similar level but maybe this will soon be the norm for top kids. Hopefully they've looked at the blue print of swimming which has been dealing with phenoms at his age for decades. But and it's a big but 3.48.8 is completely nuts and a massive achievement .

For the same reason Myers doesn't stick around in Aus right now.

Armstronglivs wrote:

This site is terrified of allowing anything that isn't part of the unending promotion of these athletes because even posts that don't make accusations are removed. All that is necessary to do is to point out inconvenient facts, such as that Ovett and Coe didn't run 3:48 on 37mpw and recovering from jet lag. Unless this form of censorship, which goes against the site's rules allowing such discussion, is the result of moderator bias we have to conclude they are being subject to pressure of some sort. So what are they afraid of?

headstronglivs wrote:

Jagg wrote:

For the same reason Myers doesn't stick around in Aus right now.

Myers went Pro a long time ago. Is Ruthe about to go Pro ?

If so then that changes everything as school comes second to his Paid job !!!

Armstronglivs wrote:

This site is terrified of allowing anything that isn't part of the unending promotion of these athletes because even posts that don't make accusations are removed. All that is necessary to do is to point out inconvenient facts, such as that Ovett and Coe didn't run 3:48 on 37mpw and recovering from jet lag. Unless this form of censorship, which goes against the site's rules allowing such discussion, is the result of moderator bias we have to conclude they are being subject to pressure of some sort. So what are they afraid of?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Just Maybe wrote:

Maybe they're afraid that a never ending flow of posts making the same point over and over and over detracts from the quality of some discussions and drive some intelligent and serious posters away. You do make a good point now and again but having to navigate through the countless times you say "I don't believe so and so can run as fast as he did so we have to suspect he's doping" is really tiresome.

I don't say that. I ask questions based on established facts about how can a youngster achieve what only the greatest in the sport could achieve (including Ingebrigtsen at the same age - Ruthe is far far faster) - and on far less training? Do you have a factual rather than merely speculative explanation? Or simply that he's "better"?