They don’t ever drug test the rabbit . Just saying . 🤔
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In the Boston Indoor last weekend during the WR 2000m, though it was more like 3:54 for the mile as it is a meter track
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what is that....velvet?
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I believe it was Davis Bove, at the NB Boston grand prix on Saturday afternoon, held in Boston, during the 2000 meter running race, where the pacer Bove went for 1600+ just ahead of Grant Fisher and Hobbs Kessler, who subsequently broke the indoor 2000M record while not having benefit of pacing lights. In case anyone reads only the first two posts and then skips to the very end like me and the guy above.
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what\'s his outdoor PR anyhow wrote:
high school xc coach wrote:
great job by the pacemaker, but it needs to be pointed out that 3:52.9 for 1600 is not a 3:52 mile. He would have run something around 3:54.3 for a full mile. Great job, as he front ran the entire thing, without the benefit of accurate pace lights, and then no pace lights at all.
It needs more to be pointed out that banked tracks are faster than outdoor tracks over middle distance. It gets proven over and over again by runners with their PRs indoors.
Galen Rupp for example, Augustine Choge. And nobody is even at their peak this time of year.
So biiiiiig deal. Rupp's mile PR was run solo eating a sandwich on an indoor banked track
I don’t know why this is so downvoted. Maybe not all 200m banked tracks, but BU and possibly NB/Armory must be as fast as outdoor tracks, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone ran the numbers and found BU to be a hair faster than typical outdoor tracks.
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get new material wrote:
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The only people still using this lame retort are terminally online losers who never go to parties. Moran.
Seriously, how is anyone not embarrassed to say this? Real reddit sh*t
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Low content of information here. How did the mods let this one hit the boards?
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high school xc coach wrote:
great job by the pacemaker, but it needs to be pointed out that 3:52.9 for 1600 is not a 3:52 mile. He would have run something around 3:54.3 for a full mile. Great job, as he front ran the entire thing, without the benefit of accurate pace lights, and then no pace lights at all.
Between the wild first 400 and the fact that he made no effort to kick (because he was doing his job - pacing) I have no real doubt he would have run 3:52 or faster in a full mile in a race right then and there.
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faxxxx wrote:
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This guy spits FACTS are parties, and I love a fact at this day in age.
Irregardless, these facts make this day in age my favorite day in ages.
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FatSlowLurker wrote:
high school xc coach wrote:
great job by the pacemaker, but it needs to be pointed out that 3:52.9 for 1600 is not a 3:52 mile. He would have run something around 3:54.3 for a full mile. Great job, as he front ran the entire thing, without the benefit of accurate pace lights, and then no pace lights at all.
Between the wild first 400 and the fact that he made no effort to kick (because he was doing his job - pacing) I have no real doubt he would have run 3:52 or faster in a full mile in a race right then and there.
After all this discussion about him running 1600m and not a mile, you feel the to use “full”?
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indoorszn wrote:
what\'s his outdoor PR anyhow wrote:
It needs more to be pointed out that banked tracks are faster than outdoor tracks over middle distance. It gets proven over and over again by runners with their PRs indoors.
Galen Rupp for example, Augustine Choge. And nobody is even at their peak this time of year.
So biiiiiig deal. Rupp's mile PR was run solo eating a sandwich on an indoor banked track
I don’t know why this is so downvoted. Maybe not all 200m banked tracks, but BU and possibly NB/Armory must be as fast as outdoor tracks, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone ran the numbers and found BU to be a hair faster than typical outdoor tracks.
It does seem so, at least for some quick striding runners. Remember Eammon Coghlan
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indoorszn wrote:
what\'s his outdoor PR anyhow wrote:
It needs more to be pointed out that banked tracks are faster than outdoor tracks over middle distance. It gets proven over and over again by runners with their PRs indoors.
Galen Rupp for example, Augustine Choge. And nobody is even at their peak this time of year.
So biiiiiig deal. Rupp's mile PR was run solo eating a sandwich on an indoor banked track
I don’t know why this is so downvoted. Maybe not all 200m banked tracks, but BU and possibly NB/Armory must be as fast as outdoor tracks, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone ran the numbers and found BU to be a hair faster than typical outdoor tracks.
It's downvoted since it's not correct. BU and Armory are very good and maybe as good as outdoor tracks, but certainly not faster. He points to two people who ran prs indoors (Galen while focusing on an off event) and used that as evidence while the vast majority of people's prs are set outdoors. Can we talk about how the indoor mile record is 3:45 while about 30 people have run faster than the equivalent for this in the 1500m outdoors.
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Interestingly enough, back in 1987, Steve Scott paced Jim Spivey to his 4:52 2000 meter AR. Scott took him through the mile in 3:54. It was actually one of Scott's better performances of the season as even though he made the World Championships as well, he ran last in the final. He also bombed at the Dream Mile running 3:57. He was self-coaching and over training. He worked with Walker's coach, Arch Jelley in 1988 and had a much better season.
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Davis Bove rabbited through 1600 meters in 3:53.0, which converts to a 3:54.3 mile. Watch the of the race (1600 split is at 4:06 mark of the video). Bove slowed considerably in the last 50 meters, so perhaps Bove can go faster?However, according to , that is still a two second PR for Bove.60
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It was pretty great to watch. How much will he get paid since it was a World Record? Hope it's a good payday for a rising talent!
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Peterpan wrote:
indoorszn wrote:
I don’t know why this is so downvoted. Maybe not all 200m banked tracks, but BU and possibly NB/Armory must be as fast as outdoor tracks, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone ran the numbers and found BU to be a hair faster than typical outdoor tracks.
It's downvoted since it's not correct. BU and Armory are very good and maybe as good as outdoor tracks, but certainly not faster. He points to two people who ran prs indoors (Galen while focusing on an off event) and used that as evidence while the vast majority of people's prs are set outdoors. Can we talk about how the indoor mile record is 3:45 while about 30 people have run faster than the equivalent for this in the 1500m outdoors.
Indoor tracks can be faster than outdoor tracks, especially for mid distance running.
Many advantages to running indoors compared to outdoors. No headwinds, good temperature, visible splits/coach contact/feedback every 200m, closer crowd support.
For many the shorter laps are mentally less challenging and easier to manage, especially when trying to just maintain or hang on.
All of the above are predictable and constant. If a runner is fit and ready they know that they will have those constants at an indoor race so they can go for a fast time there. Think of all the times wind and heat have slowed runners trying to achieve a certain time outdoors. A runner at their peak fitness might never run a fast time if they have unfavorable weather at a number of consecutive races outdoors during their peak.
Stating that indoor tracks are faster or slower because of the number of runners that have achieved certain times is flawed, as fewer runners race indoors and/or peak for indoor races.
Running indoors has its disadvantages, and it does not suit all runners, but running on an indoor track can be faster for some.
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this and this wrote:
Peterpan wrote:
It's downvoted since it's not correct. BU and Armory are very good and maybe as good as outdoor tracks, but certainly not faster. He points to two people who ran prs indoors (Galen while focusing on an off event) and used that as evidence while the vast majority of people's prs are set outdoors. Can we talk about how the indoor mile record is 3:45 while about 30 people have run faster than the equivalent for this in the 1500m outdoors.
Indoor tracks can be faster than outdoor tracks, especially for mid distance running.
Many advantages to running indoors compared to outdoors. No headwinds, good temperature, visible splits/coach contact/feedback every 200m, closer crowd support.
For many the shorter laps are mentally less challenging and easier to manage, especially when trying to just maintain or hang on.
All of the above are predictable and constant. If a runner is fit and ready they know that they will have those constants at an indoor race so they can go for a fast time there. Think of all the times wind and heat have slowed runners trying to achieve a certain time outdoors. A runner at their peak fitness might never run a fast time if they have unfavorable weather at a number of consecutive races outdoors during their peak.
Stating that indoor tracks are faster or slower because of the number of runners that have achieved certain times is flawed, as fewer runners race indoors and/or peak for indoor races.
Running indoors has its disadvantages, and it does not suit all runners, but running on an indoor track can be faster for some.
lol sure. Duh an indoor track at a temperature controlled 65 degrees will be better for mid distance than running on an outdoor track during a blizzard. No indoor track is as fast as a fast outdoor track like Stanford, Monaco, Brussels, etc
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woah what on earth wrote:
Now that's crazy.
With conversion 3:54 low mile. Your 50th best collegiate runner goes that fast
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