I've been a runner with 50 years experience. I no longer compete, but my contemporaries who still compete almost to a man are involved with HRT. It's all done with doctors prescription, but the reason they use is not for ED- they are all afraid someone else has an advantage.
Masters running is not that important, but some Masters it is their identity. The problem is once you start using HRT your body doesn't starting making hormones naturally.
I've been a runner with 50 years experience. I no longer compete, but my contemporaries who still compete almost to a man are involved with HRT. It's all done with doctors prescription, but the reason they use is not for ED- they are all afraid someone else has an advantage.
Masters running is not that important, but some Masters it is their identity. The problem is once you start using HRT your body doesn't starting making hormones naturally.
Interesting blog post here, from someone not competing but giving a glowing* account of their experience using TRT to turn the clock back a surprisingly long way, apparently:
– As a man of Science, I’m supposed to hide my enthusiasm about this somewhat controversial subject, and instead direct you only to the peer-reviewed studies. But man, I feel like I’ve …
I've long wondered about what % of athletes (masters or not) are cheating at amateur level, and what they are using. TRT is just one option, but you can see the way the writer justifies their decision, that it's not hard to imagine some runners reasoning to themselves that it's not so bad if they use that too, just replacing what their body used to make naturally. What's the harm, I shouldn't have to cope with lower levels of testosterone vs my competitors just because of my genetics, I'm just levelling the playing field, etc
But my hunch is that many within that group (TRT users) would feel injecting EPO is going too far (even though your body makes EPO too...) because they associate that with all the cheating they've seen over the last 30-40 years in endurance sports (most visibly cycling)
I did a round of corticosteroids a while back. It was incredible how well I ran. I can see why Rupp and the Norwegians loved the stuff. Removing inflammation provided a noticeable performance boost in my old joints.
I've been a runner with 50 years experience. I no longer compete, but my contemporaries who still compete almost to a man are involved with HRT. It's all done with doctors prescription, but the reason they use is not for ED- they are all afraid someone else has an advantage.
Masters running is not that important, but some Masters it is their identity. The problem is once you start using HRT your body doesn't starting making hormones naturally.
Interesting. Most of my male friends 45+ are all on TRT for ED/maintaining testosterone levels and mood.
None of them are competing/they only run for fitness, but wouldn’t be surprised if this were the new norm among most masters runners in the general public.
As someone that competes in masters competitions, I have my suspicion on some athletes that perform way above expectations. However, the OP didn't elaborate on what the actual banned substances were that that all of the above were banned for. Masters athletes are more likely to be given prescriptions for basic health reasons than younger athletes. Some of these prescriptions could be benign, but also banned.
Elaborating on this post, did the OP consider that masters athletes might have more physical and health problems than your normal runner, and not necessarily thinking about the banned substances list or getting a TUE done? Or not be obsessing about the rules like a pro coach or runner would.
I am a competitive master's runner. I obsess like a pro runner about making sure I don't put anything into my body that is on the banned substances list. I have to think that master's athletes who are testing positive know when they go on testosterone replacement therapy, or whatever else, that it helps their athletic performance and that it is banned. But they just hope they never get tested. And if they do test positive they feign ignorance and pretend they didn't realize they were cheating, and expect others to accept that they are therefore ethically blameless even though they aren't.
It would be really interesting to test every athlete in USATF masters races. My prediction, based on nothing other than my doping spider sense: a ton would light up, and the bulk of the positives would be well off the podium. But in races like club cross they would be certainly peeling some points off of team scores.
There are about 11 million people in the US with testosterone prescriptions, most of whom are likely men over 35. There are about 80 million men in that category. If you subtract 1 million to account for those under 35 and females who are transitioning, that is about 1 in 8. Surprised there aren’t more positives.
No wonder your country is going down the toilet. Maybe that needs to be reined in a little for the sake of saving western civilisation?
Testing is expensive, so not much benefit in testing amatures/masters, only elites to take back prize $. So it is rampant. One year I was a part of usatf xc nationals, I pushed for testing in masters xc as there was a former convicted doper racing. 0 tests there, only the elites.
I've been a runner with 50 years experience. I no longer compete, but my contemporaries who still compete almost to a man are involved with HRT. It's all done with doctors prescription, but the reason they use is not for ED- they are all afraid someone else has an advantage.
Masters running is not that important, but some Masters it is their identity. The problem is once you start using HRT your body doesn't starting making hormones naturally.
Interesting blog post here, from someone not competing but giving a glowing* account of their experience using TRT to turn the clock back a surprisingly long way, apparently:
I've long wondered about what % of athletes (masters or not) are cheating at amateur level, and what they are using. TRT is just one option, but you can see the way the writer justifies their decision, that it's not hard to imagine some runners reasoning to themselves that it's not so bad if they use that too, just replacing what their body used to make naturally. What's the harm, I shouldn't have to cope with lower levels of testosterone vs my competitors just because of my genetics, I'm just levelling the playing field, etc
But my hunch is that many within that group (TRT users) would feel injecting EPO is going too far (even though your body makes EPO too...) because they associate that with all the cheating they've seen over the last 30-40 years in endurance sports (most visibly cycling)
*pardon the pun
Yeah exactly. MMM was rationalizing that his TRT is just "bringing him back to normal" and sit eems like this is how some masters runners would be able to convince themselves they aren't cheating.
As a 50+ year old still competitive runner, it saddens me to read some of the testimonials in this thread but it serves as a reminder to find joy in your own individual accomplishments and try not worry about what others are doing.
Let's not pretend there is some grand master plan by USADA, USATF, or any other governing body to not catch cheaters. They aren't organized or invent enough money to come up with some plan at doing that. They are just half assing the testing and way behind the times and only catch people that are doing drugs that were popular in the 1980s.
Elaborating on this post, did the OP consider that masters athletes might have more physical and health problems than your normal runner, and not necessarily thinking about the banned substances list or getting a TUE done? Or not be obsessing about the rules like a pro coach or runner would.
I am a competitive master's runner. I obsess like a pro runner about making sure I don't put anything into my body that is on the banned substances list. I have to think that master's athletes who are testing positive know when they go on testosterone replacement therapy, or whatever else, that it helps their athletic performance and that it is banned. But they just hope they never get tested. And if they do test positive they feign ignorance and pretend they didn't realize they were cheating, and expect others to accept that they are therefore ethically blameless even though they aren't.
But are the people you mention taking whatever they are purely for improved athletic performance or for overall improvement of their health? If it's the latter they're having to choose between doing something that improves their day to day life or not compete because if they do the former thing it's cheating.
I went and looked at the past ten doping cases. Six of the past ten people popped for doping are Masters runners. They are:
Semaj Street
Michael Hooker
Shady Biwott
Loretta Turney
Cary Cooper
Robert Qualls
One is a junior Olympic competitor who was apparently given testosterone by his father. Another was a paralympic competitor (David Prince).
It's interesting that most of the doping that USADA is catching is happening in the more amateur areas of the sport. I've long thought that the 15 minute decline in BQ times couldn't be explained by shoe tech alone, and that doping had to be a factor in a drastic decline in times. Given that almost no hobby joggers are tested (they're catching the dopers who show up to USATF Masters Championships) out of competition and given just how many Masters runners they've caught lately, I really think that the vastness of the doping problem in the hobby jogger community is understated.
Probably easier to catch them,and also masters runners are less likely to sue USADA.
But do old people use inhalers more often than young people? I am a master now but used a steroid inhaler for asthma when I was younger daily, plus a rescue inhaler occasionally. I'm sure I would have tested positive, too.