When are we going to start talking about the US as a high risk nation for doping? US sprinters are as bad as Kenyan distance runners, and it’s not talked about enough.
It’s not just the American sprinters…. You’ve got some ho-hum middle distance runners making extraordinary gains in the last 16 months
I agree. Hoey in particular seems suspicious. It's not just the US middle distance guys, though. Look at the world all time 800 list and how many of those times have been set over the past 2 years. If I'm not mistaken it's about half of the top 20. That doesn't seem normal to me. I know about the legal advances with shoes, bicarb, and all of that but this seems beyond that.
*cough*...Certainly these athletes have no intention of enhancing performance. The system is broken. There are countless flying pigs out there, spreading PEDs all over the place, he's yet another victim of the Presumption Police.
I'm looking forward to someone explaining exactly why Knighton got a pass (at first) and Shelby didn't. Was it just because USADA was handling the Knighton test while the AIU did Shelby's?
Good to take down another doper, but people aren't ready to have the conversation that Bolt was probably doping...
Go ahead and have the conversation you want to. I'm surprised you aren't aware that conversation has been had many times over the years. It's always the same stuff -- no evidence, high on nutty speculation. But have at it.
Glad to see Knighton busted and banned. Good riddance.
Modern doping method revs up athletes under the NCAA's lax, no-midnight-surprises system, which gives free rein to overnight microdosing. You see all these sprinters reach elite level while in college, and then spend a few years hanging on afterwards, then fizzle out
There's no reason NCAA should be allowed to have its own separate system.
Modern doping method revs up athletes under the NCAA's lax, no-midnight-surprises system, which gives free rein to overnight microdosing. You see all these sprinters reach elite level while in college, and then spend a few years hanging on afterwards, then fizzle out
There's no reason NCAA should be allowed to have its own separate system.
What you're saying is probably true but Knighton never went through the NCAA.
With Welteji and Knighton we see that two world-class athletes have been busted on the eve of the championships. As I observed in her thread, it shows yet again that doping is at the top of the sport and it could be anyone now. But, regrettably, most will not be caught.
Who and how many athletes do they need to catch for you to find contentment?
it seems that even when the anti doping people work (i.e., catch people)
its never enough for you, so when or how will it be enough
You'd really have to go through the details on the accidental ingestion. There are plenty of restaurants that serve oxtail in his hometown, so go through the evidence. Highly sensitive equipment will pick up trace levels of accidental ingestion. His levels were reportedly very low.
When are we going to start talking about the US as a high risk nation for doping? US sprinters are as bad as Kenyan distance runners, and it’s not talked about enough.
It’s not just the American sprinters…. You’ve got some ho-hum middle distance runners making extraordinary gains in the last 16 months
Two points are consistently made on this board: 1) American male middle-distance and distance runners are finally competitive on the world stage, and 2) Kenya and Ethiopia have a big doping problem.
So either the busts in Kenya have eliminated competition / scared top African athletes to stop doping, thereby allowing Americans to catch-up, or . . .
It’s not just the American sprinters…. You’ve got some ho-hum middle distance runners making extraordinary gains in the last 16 months
Two points are consistently made on this board: 1) American male middle-distance and distance runners are finally competitive on the world stage, and 2) Kenya and Ethiopia have a big doping problem.
So either the busts in Kenya have eliminated competition / scared top African athletes to stop doping, thereby allowing Americans to catch-up, or . . .
It isn’t just the US. UK, Australia, Norway and the rest of Europe all had the same progression (or better) as US runners. Pretty much the only ones who haven’t taken a massive step forward are the Kenyans…
So many of the elite athletes take Peds today. And I guess all of them push the boundaries as to what they can legally take and how much.
But in this case he was taking anaerobic steroids which is a much higher level of abuse. This is the old school abuse that was common in the 60s, 70s and into the 80s and he should never be allowed to compete again.
I think we need to set up a new system of Ped abuse. The kind that results in a 2 or3 year ban and the kind that results in a lifelong ban. This is the second type. I know some people feel any ped violation should result in a lifelong ban and that is a good argument worthy of debate. But there should be no debate about steroid abuse.
Based on the two months already credited, this should end around July 2029. Good chance he will miss USATFs that year and so he will be out for: 2025 World Champs, 2027 World Champs, 2028 Olympics, and 2029 World Champs. The next Outdoor World Champs he will be eligible for will be in 2031 when he will be 27 and nearing the end of his prime years for sprinting.