All of them talk about Epstein and Ghislaine abusing them. But not word one about anyone else abusing them. What gives?
If Epstein and Ghislaine were procurers, why aren't these accusers naming the rich & famous who actually diddled them?
That's a lie told by wackos trying to insinuate Epstein was running a blackmail op for some foreign government. The more likely scenario is Epstein himself and few of his closest friends were the diddlers.
Trump was probably one of the biggest diddlers. Bill Clinton also.
“Best friends”. Repeat lies often enough and hope it becomes the truth. You hasbarats are going off the deep end on this one. 😝 Too many people know you guys bankrolled Epstein’s operation.
Repeating lies is what the WH does. It isn't disputed that Trump was best friends with Epstein for a decade. You've forgotten the famous birthday card from Trump.
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I went to law school with someone who ended up a prosecutor who specializes in sex crimes. They have some of the highest dismissal rates because victims often do not want to have to testify. Attorneys who defend accused rapists go very hard at the victim's credibility and almost always accuse the victim of being a slut by digging through all their relationships. In the case of underage victims, they have zero chance of prosecution unless the parents are driving the case. Underage victims instinctively want to keep the experience a secret because they usually have not told their parents that they are sexually active and fear getting in trouble with their parents if they admit to being raped or sexually assaulted.
Now put those same victims on an international stage and the mental trauma they face is unimaginable. Virginia Giuffre was the strongest and most vocal survivor. She took her own life at the age of 41.
Virginia Giuffre was the strongest and most vocal survivor. She "took her own life" at the age of 41.
Fixed. Sorry, but I think skepticism about whether Giuffre actually killed herself is more than justified. All of these survivors are afraid and claim to have faced various forms of intimidation. The perps have vast resources and connections and they have everything to lose.
I agree with OP. It's time to name names. The US Justice Department has refused to do it's job. It has prioritized sex criminals over victims and the public good. An extrajudicial solution is necessary. Have the survivors come up with a preliminary list and announce the names on the House floor.
No more teasing, no more stonewalling, no more *REDACTED*, no more releasing documents in piecemeal fashion, like breadcrumbs. Throw out some names and see who else the accused drag down with them.
All of them talk about Epstein and Ghislaine abusing them. But not word one about anyone else abusing them. What gives?
If Epstein and Ghislaine were procurers, why aren't these accusers naming the rich & famous who actually diddled them?
FACT: Jeffrey Epstein had 14 phone numbers connected to @realDonaldTrump in his black book of contacts. FACT: Thanks to the Ghislaine Maxwell's trial, we know Donald Trump flew on Epstein's private jet seven times. FACT: Released transcripts from Jeffrey Epstein's 2006 prosecution provide a link between him and Donald Trump. FACT: @realDonaldTrump told us long ago who he was, especially, in regards to Jeffrey Epstein: “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine, “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, AND MANY OF THEM ARE ON THE YOUNGER SIDE. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” FACT: The narrative that Donald Trump "testified" against Jeffrey Epstein in 2009 is a FALSE defense strategy MAGA morons use to excuse Trump. Thing is, Donald Trump NEVER testified against Jeffrey Epstein. He merely gave information to Epstein's victims lawyers. Brad Edwards, an attorney who represented Epstein's alleged victims, said in a 2018 interview, that Trump was "the only person who picked up the phone and said, 'Let's just talk. I'll give you as much time as you want. Ill tell you what you need to know.'" Brad Edwards said he never took Trump’s deposition. FACT: The only thing Trump did to help bring about Epstein's investigation was to rat Epstein out to the police bcos Epstein threatened to expose Trump for the fraud that he is. All of this occurred bcos Trump bought a $41 million property from under Epstein's nose. Epstein threatened to expose Trump's fraud, so Trump ratted him out like the fuqking weasel he is. FACT: In a court document, the question is asked of a witness: Q: It's true also, is it not, that Mr. Trump was a frequent visitor to Mr. Epstein's residence? A: I-- I know that he visited frequent. I -- I don't have a lot of information about Trump. FACT: In video testimony, Katie Johnson, when she was around 13 years old, admittedly said Donald Trump took interest in her bcos she reminded him of his daughter - ie, Ivanka. FACT: In released court documents, Sarah Ransome, one of Jeffrey Epstein's "recruiters" wrote in emails regarding a 12 year old little girl saying - and I quote - "She confided in me about her casual 'friendship' with Donald. Mr Trump definitely seemed to have a thing for her and she told me how he kept going on about how he liked her 'pert nipples.'" FACT: Sarah Ransome's email, in released court documents, also stated - and I quote - "I also know she had sexual relations with Trump at Jeffery's NY mansion on regular occasions." FACT: Katie Johnson's court documents detailing @realDonaldTrump grotesque rape and pedophilia is publicly available. FACT: Katie Johnson's case was NOT dismissed bcos she lied - as MAGA would have you believe. She voluntarily withdrew the case bcos she received death threats and the law firm representing her received bomb threats. FACT: According to ex CBS producer Ira Rosen, Ghislaine Maxwell claimed that Jeffrey Epstein had tapes of his friends having sex, including Donald Trump. However, she stated she didn't know where the tapes were located. FACT: EVERYTHING I JUST MENTIONED IS VERIFIABLE. FACT: @realDonaldTrump - the "president" of the United States is a pedophile.
If Trump did ANYTHING that could be considered questionable, the BIDEN administration would have released all that info and promoted it in the media for the 4 years that they were in charge.
I'm not sure the official line from MAGA is 'diddling kids is good for Western society' quite yet. I think they're still at the 'Trump dindu nuffin' stage.
It's good forward thinking though, I'm sure they'll get there eventually when the evidence becomes too great.
I went to law school with someone who ended up a prosecutor who specializes in sex crimes. They have some of the highest dismissal rates because victims often do not want to have to testify. Attorneys who defend accused rapists go very hard at the victim's credibility and almost always accuse the victim of being a slut by digging through all their relationships. In the case of underage victims, they have zero chance of prosecution unless the parents are driving the case. Underage victims instinctively want to keep the experience a secret because they usually have not told their parents that they are sexually active and fear getting in trouble with their parents if they admit to being raped or sexually assaulted.
Now put those same victims on an international stage and the mental trauma they face is unimaginable. Virginia Giuffre was the strongest and most vocal survivor. She took her own life at the age of 41.
Great post. Look at how these survivors are currently being treated in this thread and in the right wing ecosphere.
Epstein knew how to protect himself and his perps. And he knew his underage girls could never out him. He got rich doing it.
I dare anyone to read the Epstein court files and not stand with the victims seeking justice and transparency.
If Trump did ANYTHING that could be considered questionable, the BIDEN administration would have released all that info and promoted it in the media for the 4 years that they were in charge.
Massie explains why the victims would be destroyed via law suits (and other means) if they publicly named who raped them. Massie and MGT plan to get those names from the victims and read them at the House of Reps.
Let's see what the Oligarchs come up with to prevent that.
They will be stopped from doing so.
Count on it.
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If Trump did ANYTHING that could be considered questionable, the BIDEN administration would have released all that info and promoted it in the media for the 4 years that they were in charge.
We keep hearing that. Trumps probable inclusion in the files and the fact that they weren’t released are not mutually exclusive. It may have been known to the Biden administration that Trump was in the files but they weren’t released anyway. We don’t know all of the circumstances and factors at play. There are more than likely other prominent people & politicians, both republicans and democrats, in the files.
That said, why aren’t the files being released? Trump said he would do it on day 1 (along with bringing down grocery prices and ending all wars). If he’s not in them then he shouldn’t hesitate to release them.
One of the survivors said yesterday they would produce a list of the men who victimized them. Would be great, but I'd bet big against them actually doing it. Hope I'm wrong.
If Trump did ANYTHING that could be considered questionable, the BIDEN administration would have released all that info and promoted it in the media for the 4 years that they were in charge.
Trump is doing something now -- blocking the release of the files he made campaign promises to release.
Putting Trump's denials and his loyal defenders aside, the world wants to know who were all the other "clients" of these 1,000 victims?
“Best friends”. Repeat lies often enough and hope it becomes the truth.
This is funny to me because Trumpers do the same thing by saying he graduated at the top of his class at Wharton, among dozens of other things that aren't true.
Anyway, this document on the house.gov site has Epstein claiming “I was Donald’s closest friend for 10 years."
