You really don't know the detail do you. Lucy Connelly expressed an opinion, her tweet which was only up for a short time included the phrase "as far as I care". No evidence was presented that her opinion had actually incited any unrest, the unrest was already underway.
She pled guilty because she was held in prison without bail and was told she would be released in time for Christmas for her family if she pled guilty and simply given a fine target than wait in prison for almost a year.
A leftist who called for people to have their throats cut, was released on ball, opted for a much delayed trial and was found not guilty of inciting violence.
A leftist who made up a claim Muslim women had been subject to acid attacks, in order to incite unrest, went unpunished
I appreciate she's now a superhero to you, so it'll be hard for you to hear facts.
But she called for hotels to be burned with occupants inside whilst crazy people like you were stood outside holding molotovs. The guy who talked about people having their throats cut was specifically referring to neo-nazis leaving razorblades on tube trains - nobody was at actual risk of getting their throat cut.
If violent crazies were stood outside your house and people online were encouraging them to attack, how would you want them to be dealt with? (In fact, don't answer that, it's hypothetical situation that'll never happen so you'll answer it dishonestly.)
You really don't know the detail do you. Lucy Connelly expressed an opinion, her tweet which was only up for a short time included the phrase "as far as I care". No evidence was presented that her opinion had actually incited any unrest, the unrest was already underway.
She pled guilty because she was held in prison without bail and was told she would be released in time for Christmas for her family if she pled guilty and simply given a fine target than wait in prison for almost a year.
A leftist who called for people to have their throats cut, was released on ball, opted for a much delayed trial and was found not guilty of inciting violence.
A leftist who made up a claim Muslim women had been subject to acid attacks, in order to incite unrest, went unpunished
It seems you lack the details and context for this situation.
"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f—ing hotels full of the bastards for all I care."
It was seen by 300,000 people before it was deleted. If you're looking for evidence of actual violence, look no further than what was happening in the country: rioters were setting fire to hotels filled with asylum seekers.
You cannot casually call for tens of thousands of people to be burned alive, especially in a context where such an outcome could reasonably happen, without expecting consequences.
If her lawyer informed her that she would be out by Christmas, they should have considered the sentences given previously during civil unrest, which are typically much harsher than usual.
In the case of the man who was arrested for shouting "we love bacon," he is not expressing his affection for cooked breakfasts. Instead, he is doing so in the context of protesting outside a mosque.
Claiming that he simply 'loves bacon' and that his comment means nothing else is not a clever way to avoid prosecution. He is fully aware of his intentions, the police understand his motives, I recognise them, and hopefully, you do too.
UK working classes vote for Brexit which immediately sends home thousands of vital EU workers.
Replaced with unskilled Africans who it's harder to block or return now due to Brexit.
Working classes just angry at immigration
Millionaire eite classes like Farage see this as a superb opportunity to leave the ECHR allowing erosion of workers rights (holiday, sick pay, maternity paternity leave, min wage) etc
Working classes now get behind farage to essentially screw future generations of Working class folks, under the guise of "stop the botes!!"
He sits in the pub with millionaire friends laughing how dumb his fanbase is.
UK working classes vote for Brexit which immediately sends home thousands of vital EU workers.
Replaced with unskilled Africans who it's harder to block or return now due to Brexit.
Working classes just angry at immigration
Millionaire eite classes like Farage see this as a superb opportunity to leave the ECHR allowing erosion of workers rights (holiday, sick pay, maternity paternity leave, min wage) etc
Working classes now get behind farage to essentially screw future generations of Working class folks, under the guise of "stop the botes!!"
He sits in the pub with millionaire friends laughing how dumb his fanbase is.
Incredible that people can't grasp this
The current small boat crisis stems from changes implemented after Brexit. Before Brexit, asylum seekers were required to claim asylum in the first E.U. country they arrived in. This regulation meant that individuals crossing the English Channel could be sent to countries like Italy or Greece, or to another E.U. state if the U.K. could not fulfill its obligation to process their asylum claims. There was a level of cooperation between Britain and other European countries regarding this process.
However, since Brexit, the U.K. is now legally responsible for processing asylum seekers on its own. That was part of the "take back control" that Brexiters asked for. However, the U.K. was woefully unprepared for Brexit and asylum seekers are currently being accommodated in hotels as the immigration service simply does not have the capacity right now with all the extra post-Brexit checks that are required.
The individuals who campaigned for Brexit are now voicing their opposition to its effects. What a surprise.
However, the specifics of these details are irrelevant to the protesters. The U.K. has the capacity to accommodate these asylum seekers and process their claims in a timely manner. What it lacks is the political will to do so. The protesters are primarily focused on the fact that the arrivals are foreign and often Muslim. Rather than calling for the government to hire more staff to address the processing backlog or for a closer relationship with the E.U., they demand that these individuals be "sent back."
That should tell you everything you need to know, the protestors are not interested in actual solutions, they just want to express their opposition to the presence of asylum seekers in the country. It's less about politics, and more about blatant racism.
Once again you misrepresent facts. There was no law and is no law that states claims have to be made in the first country. The Dublin agreement said if someone had previously claimed asylum in a EU country, then they could in theory be returned to that country if they attempted to make a claim in another country, e.g. the UK. The system didn't really work, in the UK's case, only a couple of hundred out of tens of thousands were returned and almost 3 times that number were returned to the UK.
It's the same about your nonsense about razor blades on lamp posts, about the chap saying he liked bacon being outside a mosque, about Lucy Connelly.
Next you'll be telling us the thousands of girls raped by Muslim Pakistani origin gangs in the UK weren't raped, but were in loving relationships with the men, that the school girls sexually assaulted outside a migrant hotel were far right agitators making it up.
Once again you misrepresent facts. There was no law and is no law that states claims have to be made in the first country. The Dublin agreement said if someone had previously claimed asylum in a EU country, then they could in theory be returned to that country if they attempted to make a claim in another country, e.g. the UK. The system didn't really work, in the UK's case, only a couple of hundred out of tens of thousands were returned and almost 3 times that number were returned to the UK.
It's the same about your nonsense about razor blades on lamp posts, about the chap saying he liked bacon being outside a mosque, about Lucy Connelly.
Next you'll be telling us the thousands of girls raped by Muslim Pakistani origin gangs in the UK weren't raped, but were in loving relationships with the men, that the school girls sexually assaulted outside a migrant hotel were far right agitators making it up.
The Dublin Agreement established a framework for cooperation among European countries regarding asylum applications. It identified that the first E.U. country an asylum seeker arrives in is generally responsible for processing their asylum application. However, there are additional criteria that can be considered beyond just the first point of entry.
I have not made any claims regarding razor blades. The councillor who made those ill advised comments was found not guilty by a jury in less than 30 minutes. Additionally, unlike the Lucy Connolly case, there was no actual violence that occurred following his remarks.
The reality of grooming gangs is that only a minority are classified as "Pakistani gangs" or "Muslim gangs." In fact, the vast majority are White British, including a gang that operated in Bolton. This fact seems to have gone unnoticed by many, because it doesn't fit the narrative that is being promoted by a resurgent racist political movement in the U.K.
Again, you misrepresent facts, read the Casey report about the ethnicity of rape gangs.
Even our Labour Party accepted all the findings, despite most of the rape gangs being in Labour council controlled areas and where police forces under the control of Labour police and crime commissioners turned a blind eye.
I'm only waiting for you to exclaim "islamaphobia" before I can shout Bingo.
UK working classes vote for Brexit which immediately sends home thousands of vital EU workers.
Replaced with unskilled Africans who it's harder to block or return now due to Brexit.
Working classes just angry at immigration
Millionaire eite classes like Farage see this as a superb opportunity to leave the ECHR allowing erosion of workers rights (holiday, sick pay, maternity paternity leave, min wage) etc
Working classes now get behind farage to essentially screw future generations of Working class folks, under the guise of "stop the botes!!"
He sits in the pub with millionaire friends laughing how dumb his fanbase is.
Incredible that people can't grasp this
White middle-classes upset that they can no longer hire £3 an hour Polish plumbers or nannys.
Support millions of illegal Africans coming by boats to get back at the 'gammon' who voted for Brexit AND to divide the working classes so they can't co-operate effectively to protect their worker rights.
Escape to their second homes in France when the **** hits the fan in 2030, and British cities start resembling slaughter houses, laughing at the tens of thousands of gammon and Muslims killing each other as they sip their wine on the beach while their 3 euro an hour Polish nannies look after their brats.
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The Dublin Agreement established a framework for cooperation among European countries regarding asylum applications. It identified that the first E.U. country an asylum seeker arrives in is generally responsible for processing their asylum application. However, there are additional criteria that can be considered beyond just the first point of entry.
I have not made any claims regarding razor blades. The councillor who made those ill advised comments was found not guilty by a jury in less than 30 minutes. Additionally, unlike the Lucy Connolly case, there was no actual violence that occurred following his remarks.
The reality of grooming gangs is that only a minority are classified as "Pakistani gangs" or "Muslim gangs." In fact, the vast majority are White British, including a gang that operated in Bolton. This fact seems to have gone unnoticed by many, because it doesn't fit the narrative that is being promoted by a resurgent racist political movement in the U.K.
@PeterBleksley@Valvantios Yes, grooming gangs involving Pakistani-heritage men are real, confirmed by cases like Rotherham (80% Pakistani perpetrators) and a 2025 report by Baroness Casey showing over-representation in some areas. But national data is incomplete, and systemic…
If you had a problem with the erosion of worker's rights, you would be repeatedly calling the working class dumb.
I'm working class and proud of it.
It just depresses me how much the UK is manipulated by the right wing press.
Do you think Farage has in interests of the common man at heart? No
Do you think he cares about immigration? Guarantee he doesn't live near any areas where there's high densities of it.
Do you think he uses the NHS? No chance
Will he ever require housing via the council? Nope.
He paints himself as saviour of the man on the street, yet they are of no interest to him.
Immigration is a problem, but it's just being used for political leverage. I think Reform may well get in and we'll all be generally worse off as a result of it.
You really don't know the detail do you. Lucy Connelly expressed an opinion, her tweet which was only up for a short time included the phrase "as far as I care".