So, I guess my first question (other than "Who the f####_embed0_####amp;@ is Rory Linkletter?") is: "Why the f####_embed0_####amp;@ would an elite race 2 marathons in a month?"
Discus.
If that was your knee jerk first reaction, then you’re fairly out of touch. Might explain now some of your really poor takes in threads.
I admit it. I deserve that!
I haven't followed Canadian Marathoning at all for a while - only Cam.
Interesting. My memory is foggy, but wasn't Clayton a "one hit wonder"?
I can't help feeling that this is like throwing eggs at a wall, hoping for something to stick.
If Linkletter run 2:05/2:06 in the Fall, I will (gladly) take some kicks.
Clayton was the first person under 2:10 - 2:09.36 (1967). Two years later he ran 2:08.33 to best that. He won 14 marathons in his career, went to two Olympics and won multiple national championships.
(To the downvoters, I read somewhere that he ran 4 marathons last year, and 2 x HM a week apart. Clearly this was wrong info, so I corrected myself. Isn't that a refreshing thing to do at LR!?)
Nah - f-you Skuj; you just forgot to sign out of your "official" account and into your troll account before you posted your first comment.
The "month apart" thing shouldn't be at this point. It is attempted so rarely by top athletes that we have little idea how difficult running two of them within a month really is. We also have no idea what the long term effect this will have on guys like Linkletter and Albertson.
It actually doesn't take a genius to figure out that running two marathons in a month is very taxing on the body and on the second one you might do slightly worse, but 2:08 mid is still a very impressive time.
Taxing on the body sure...and that's in theory....but since it isn't often done there's no way to determine how much performance dropoff there might be or what the effect long term would be.
The Canadian embassy refused upwards of 15 VISAs for East Africans to run in Ottawa. Seems like they were trying to help a Canadian win their country's flagship race. Much like some of the Chinese races that DQ the Kenyans so their countryman can win.
I mean, probably. But other endurance athletes do two marathons in a month medium-regularly. Look at the exploits of some of the top trail ultra-runners. XC skiers race 50k's within a month every year. Yes the pounding on the pavement is different, but the physiology of keeping a peak isn't. It seems like careful training management and being open to new perspectives could allow some marathoners to race more often if they wanted to.
(To the downvoters, I read somewhere that he ran 4 marathons last year, and 2 x HM a week apart. Clearly this was wrong info, so I corrected myself. Isn't that a refreshing thing to do at LR!?)
Nah - f-you Skuj; you just forgot to sign out of your "official" account and into your troll account before you posted your first comment.
Interesting. My memory is foggy, but wasn't Clayton a "one hit wonder"?
I can't help feeling that this is like throwing eggs at a wall, hoping for something to stick.
If Linkletter run 2:05/2:06 in the Fall, I will (gladly) take some kicks.
Clayton was the first person under 2:10 - 2:09.36 (1967). Two years later he ran 2:08.33 to best that. He won 14 marathons in his career, went to two Olympics and won multiple national championships.
What was his third fastest time after those 2:08/2:09 runs in 67/69?
(To the downvoters, I read somewhere that he ran 4 marathons last year, and 2 x HM a week apart. Clearly this was wrong info, so I corrected myself. Isn't that a refreshing thing to do at LR!?)
Nah - f-you Skuj; you just forgot to sign out of your "official" account and into your troll account before you posted your first comment.
Own it.
I just want to further add...
This is coming from someone called "lolio"....an unregistered account.
The Canadian embassy refused upwards of 15 VISAs for East Africans to run in Ottawa. Seems like they were trying to help a Canadian win their country's flagship race. Much like some of the Chinese races that DQ the Kenyans so their countryman can win.
Yeah, that’s why they brought in Albert Korir last minute…
The "month apart" thing shouldn't be at this point. It is attempted so rarely by top athletes that we have little idea how difficult running two of them within a month really is. We also have no idea what the long term effect this will have on guys like Linkletter and Albertson.
It actually doesn't take a genius to figure out that running two marathons in a month is very taxing on the body and on the second one you might do slightly worse, but 2:08 mid is still a very impressive time.
My point was he ran two marathons really close, but you should know this.
Then in Antwerp, Belgium, Clayton lowered his own world best to 2:08:33.6 on May 30, 1969 - the first to crack the 2:09 barrier and more than two minutes faster than history's next quickest, Britain's Bill Adcocks (2:10.47.8) run in 1968. It was such a stupendous breakthrough that sceptics throughout the following decade would speculate that the course must have been short. Yet only 11 days before his historic run in Belgium, Clayton ran at high altitude and won a marathon in Ankara, Turkey on 19th May, in 2:17.26.
Apologies my reply was for Skuj not you, but I'm too lazy to correct it
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2:08:31 is to the marathon WR as 13:31.8 is to the 5k WR.
They are both 18.2 seconds per mile slower.
What is the point of listing these arbitrary times? Are you guys seriously arguing that Rory is somehow not competitive as a professional marathon runner? He just had a very strong performance at Boston. He finished second in this race. He hit the last Olympic marathon qualifying standard (which only two Americans where able to manage last cycle).
Do you really think Canadian immigration authorities care in the slightest about the results of some marathon that's small on a global scale? It's honestly ridiculous to think there's some conspiracy against Africans just so Linkletter would have a better chance. 'Normal people' couldn’t care less about the Ottawa Marathon.
Ultras run shy of the effort enough that the pace doesn't do them in like a marathon. In fact, a 50K ultra is typically easier to run than the 42.195km marathon.
XC skiing is not nearly as hard on the body as running on a hard surface. It is akin to road cycling. I think, as you say, careful training management, but also super shoes assist in recovery, attenuate the damage in the lower leg. However, as per chaos theory and relativity, the equal and opposite can happen. There now may be a correlation to femoral stress fractures and constant super shoe wear (in training).
Rory did well to bang off two marathons at an elite level a month apart. But nothing profound here. I mean look at Yuki Kawauchi running like a Marathon Maniac member.....
....lots of damage can come from too much quality leading up to a marathon and then during the marathon race, sh*t can break.