I never thought I'd see the day when I was defending rojo, but here we are...
He started by asking a question that, in a novel and relevant way, lends perspective to the greatness of Ryan Crouser. In response, everyone in this thread jumps all over him with juvenile taunts? If you have an issue with how he goes about getting an answer to the question (and there have been valid criticisms to be made in the past), there are ways to do that in a civil and constructive manner.
Whatever rojo's faults -- he tends to blurt out first assumptions and impressions before forming a cogent argument around them, and I find his political views baffling and contradictory -- I genuinely respect his honesty and his willingness to forthrightly speak his mind, unlike someone like Jonathan Gault who hides behind false claims of journalistic integrity and impartiality. Gault is a better writer and I suspect his politics are far more aligned with mine than are rojo's, but I wouldn't hesitate to choose the latter when asked who I trust more to tell the truth about the sport.
Nah…f*ck rojo. He’s a lazy bigot that was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple. People like him are what’s wrong with society today.
re: Alessandro Andrei... per Wikipedia, he did break the world record three times in an Italian meet in August 1987 with three consecutive record breaking throws over 22m. Following these, he did have one slightly shorter 22m throw in that same meet. But history doesn't show if his other two throws were good let alone over 22m.
I never thought I'd see the day when I was defending rojo, but here we are...
He started by asking a question that, in a novel and relevant way, lends perspective to the greatness of Ryan Crouser. In response, everyone in this thread jumps all over him with juvenile taunts? If you have an issue with how he goes about getting an answer to the question (and there have been valid criticisms to be made in the past), there are ways to do that in a civil and constructive manner.
Whatever rojo's faults -- he tends to blurt out first assumptions and impressions before forming a cogent argument around them, and I find his political views baffling and contradictory -- I genuinely respect his honesty and his willingness to forthrightly speak his mind, unlike someone like Jonathan Gault who hides behind false claims of journalistic integrity and impartiality. Gault is a better writer and I suspect his politics are far more aligned with mine than are rojo's, but I wouldn't hesitate to choose the latter when asked who I trust more to tell the truth about the sport.
So is he better than all those doped-to-the-gills E Bloc shot putters?
Please try to make a well-reasoned persuasive argument sometime rather than posting fly-by assertions or innuendoes ad nauseam. Then maybe you won't be quite so detested here.
re: Alessandro Andrei... per Wikipedia, he did break the world record three times in an Italian meet in August 1987 with three consecutive record breaking throws over 22m. Following these, he did have one slightly shorter 22m throw in that same meet. But history doesn't show if his other two throws were good let alone over 22m.
History does show it though... Andrei's throws that day were (from best to worst) 22.91, 22.84, 22.74, 22.72, 22.37, and 22.19.
re: Alessandro Andrei... per Wikipedia, he did break the world record three times in an Italian meet in August 1987 with three consecutive record breaking throws over 22m. Following these, he did have one slightly shorter 22m throw in that same meet. But history doesn't show if his other two throws were good let alone over 22m.
History does show it though... Andrei's throws that day were (from best to worst) 22.91, 22.84, 22.74, 22.72, 22.37, and 22.19.
Adding on here, Wikipedia literally has the entire series listed:
So is he better than all those doped-to-the-gills E Bloc shot putters?
Please try to make a well-reasoned persuasive argument sometime rather than posting fly-by assertions or innuendoes ad nauseam. Then maybe you won't be quite so detested here.
So you don't know the answer. So is he better than a legion of doped E Bloc athletes or not - with all the advantages they had? A fair question.
Please try to make a well-reasoned persuasive argument sometime rather than posting fly-by assertions or innuendoes ad nauseam. Then maybe you won't be quite so detested here.
So you don't know the answer. So is he better than a legion of doped E Bloc athletes or not - with all the advantages they had? A fair question.
He knows the answer. What you don't know is when to shut up.
So is he better than all those doped-to-the-gills E Bloc shot putters?
Please try to make a well-reasoned persuasive argument sometime rather than posting fly-by assertions or innuendoes ad nauseam. Then maybe you won't be quite so detested here.
Just for the record (so to speak), Crouser has thrown further than the best doped E Bloc athletes of the past. To put that in perspective, the women's world record is still held by an E German, set back in 1980.