COLE MF SHOCKER

Yes Kerr's splits from last world champs are more impressive, but Hocker's got time to improve and seems to be on track to peak at just the right time for this olympics. Issue is Kerr seems to be better than he was last year though. Kerr and Jacob are still the favorites, but with Hocker this is shaping up to be maybe the best 1500m race ever. Hocker seems to be in 3:28 shape in a well paced diamond league (going through 1200 in 2:47). Kerr, Jacob, and Nuguse seem to be at least that shape too.

Just rewatched the race and it looks like you're right. I did find it strange that it said Kerr was a whole second faster than Jakob over the last 400.

Of course he isn't the GOAT. I did like his tactics, however. Not because he won, although that is nice for him. I like the tactics because it gave the best shot for him and Goose, and likely Hobbs, to make the team. Even if Goose had reacted faster and had the legs to overtake him, Cole was going to make the team. I've criticized his racing before, so tonight I'll say 'well done'.

Those splits are definitely wrong. Did you get them from the official site? It’s been established that they are inaccurate (maybe you remember the Jakob closing in 50.6 thread). I just hand-timed Josh and got 53.4 which may or may not be accurate, but regardless, he was right on Jakob’s shoulder at the bell and won by a quarter of a second, so there’s no way there was that much difference between their final laps. Whether that means they ran 52.8 and 53.3, or 53.4 and 53.9, or something else, I have no idea.

Nuguse did the whole work, perfect pacer from the first 300m and was even able to resist and come back a little at the end.

If you're familiar with how championship races are usually run compared with how this one went you would not be that surprised.

Point taken. My remark was largely intended as a compliment to the field.

10 years ago, 3 Kenyans ran under 3:29. A couple US guys running under 3:33 at trials is great for the US, but nothing earth shattering compared to East African countries.

That's all the Kenyans are good at. The US is the best at everything.

Hocker was definitely the better runner today, but I think it is way too premature to imply that he'll do better than Nuguse in Paris. Today most of the guys behind Hocker/Nuguse/Kessler PRd. Hocker is going to have to try what he did today against multiple guys who have already ran faster than what Hocker ran today. Nuguse has done just as well as Hocker on the biggest stage against the best 1500m runners. Paris will be very fun to watch, and both men have a great shot at making some noise in the final.

Clearly nuguse paced this to filter out the slower runners and guarantee himself a spot.

How about the GAOT?

Greatest At Olympic Trials! 😎

I think it's a function of better talent and better training. And of course, the fact that Nuguse rabbited the race. This is a new golden age of milers. 2-3 great Brits, 2-3 great Americans, and a dominant favorite in Jakob. Where are the Kenyans? The world is upside down. Too good to be true.

Ooh, sounds nasty. But he looked great!

no shocker what so ever.

hocker is healthy, has a kick, and was in the olympic final as a youngster

goose led per jacob, and got nipped, no big deal.

hobbs is learning and delivered.

basically the 3 picks of everyone came in.

no shocker

whatever man i'm just glad we're past the era of a bunch of egregiously doped up africans and middle easterners with no personality or swag doing jog fests and sit-and-kicking

we're in the era of a bunch of flashy chads with huge personalities running PRs in finals. just an absolute blessing

Teare needs to forget the 1500. Hobbs was outstanding, everyone forgets how young he is. Hocker dominated.

Oh come on although you are right about that but remember it's a world of a difference going from 3:30 to 3:29, that's 1.2 seconds faster that Kerr ran last year than Hocker. Moreover, Kerr went on to win 3000m world indoors with a 52 close and 25.1 last 200m. Kerr has a 52s kick in him if needed off any pace fast or slow.

The reason why Hocker won tonight wasn't because Nuguse did all the work for him. That's true but a superficial factor at best. The real factor was Hocker's biomechanics and arm swing was far better than Nuguse. You saw how Hocker pumped his arms and opened the gap easily? Nuguse's arms look tied up and so inefficient which is why he can never be a global champion.

You need arms arms arms arms, they need to be driving forwards and backwards to generate flight forward. With this loss, it's clear Nuguse is on track to be washed up. I'm surprised he lost to Hocker because he is supposed to have just as good or better kick than him. Nuguse also closed in 52 seconds at world indoors 3000m but for the lack of armswing couldn't compete with Kerr.

You can see in the interview later that Nuguse looks disappointed. He knows he should have won and supposed to be the better athlete than Hocker.

That's correct!!! Hobbs my man did well!!!! His disciplined and faithful avoidance or reduction of exposure to anthropogenic RF at his residence and training grounds on a day to day basis is reaping dividends. But he still lacks 1 crucial factor that will make him beat Nuguse and Hocker. His failure to completely uproot his existence from a still wireless polluted American county and town to a completely wireless non-existent Ethiopian highland or somewhere similar but slightly lower in altitude*. I was thinking Alburqueque where Kerr trains at altitude would be good for Hobbs as the altitude is lower at 1500m and there are places you can find where the cellular signal is very low and the houses are very far apart from one another to avoid wifi and other RF antennas. Pls send my message to Hobbs Kessler and let him know that I Khamis the RF King wants to turn him into a monster athlete for the future and he needs to OBEY my advice with no further questions!!!!

*for 1500m and mile running, the rule of thumb is you don't train nor live higher than 1600m in altitude. How do I know???? Well of course I have to take reference from the greatest cleanest miler of all time Hicham El King Guerrouj who trained in Ifrane at 1600m. He became the very best while training no higher than 1600m. All the kenyans who tried to have a faster PB than him all failed although 1 managed to outrun him on a very rare and forgettable occasion Noah Ngeny but at a speed still slower than 3:26. The higher altitudes 2000m and above are generally for marathoners and still higher 3000m and above for ultra marathoners. You don't keep going higher and higher in altitude to run faster and faster at 800m and 1500m. The cap would be 1600m for the middle distance, and 1800-2000m for the 5k/10k and 2000-3000m for the marathon. The only exception to the rule is if you are born at altitude and live there all your life, then all the rules are thrown out of the window.