She didn’t look particularly tired after winning the 10k a few days later (last night). It was noticeable that all the runners after her were lying on the floor after finishing and she was prancing around having barely broken a sweat. It just didn’t look like hard work to her.
However, she is a very strong cross country runner and has won many races so we will have to believe she’s had a good winter and is seeing the benefits now.
It’s the lack of fatigue that perplexes me. Unless she’s just very fit.
Batocletti has been a big talent since her junior days and I don't think her progression is unexpected. She nearly beat Laura Muir in the European or World Indoors a couple of years ago (I can't recall which). Added to that, she is used to training in the very hot conditions the race last night was run in, and the home crowd atmosphere will have helped, but she was clearly breathing heavily in the last few laps.
Grovdal did a similar double and I would guess that they calculated that with that quick turn around, neither would yet be in recovery mode but would still be operating efficiently.
Theres something going on in Italian coaching at any rate; quite a few British runners are now choosing to be based there as part of training groups. Amy Hunt, the sprinter is one, although she hasn't yet seen a massive improvement, she did make a final.
Yes I’ve noticed a few British runners basing themselves in Italy. I guess the coaching/ set up is improving there.
I think the conditions affected quite a few of the runners last night and you’re right Batocletti will be more used to those conditions and fully acclimated versus some of the British runners.
It really is a lesson for many of them to get some heat training in before the August Olympics if they haven’t already.
Also a lesson in how a good winter of cross country can really set you up for a strong performance on the track in the longer distances.
The reason of improvement is obvious: food, nutrition, training and belief, like for high school and college athletes in the NCAA.
Of course and not the rampant PED use in the NCAA, that is swept under the carpet or the special recovery massage gel
I was obviously mocking the high school/NCAA doping deniers that populate Letsrun (and who conversely accuse of PED usage more or less everybody else in the world...)
She didn’t look particularly tired after winning the 10k a few days later (last night). It was noticeable that all the runners after her were lying on the floor after finishing and she was prancing around having barely broken a sweat. It just didn’t look like hard work to her.
However, she is a very strong cross country runner and has won many races so we will have to believe she’s had a good winter and is seeing the benefits now.
It’s the lack of fatigue that perplexes me. Unless she’s just very fit.
Unless she's just very fit? Hmm maybe you're onto something?
It may be hilarious to you, but there are a lot of other athletes with what you can choose to call funny progressions, but unless you actually have some proof to provide to the AIU, or want to apply for a job in doping control, then you are just a rumor monger, no?
If we're being completely honest, the country of Italy is HORRIBLE at track and field. On my life, I've never once heard "this Italian runner is up next". They really aren't competitive with the other top EU squads.
However, in Olympic years, they go crazy.
National records in 2021 (Tokyo)
Men's: Marcel Jacobs (100m), Paolo Dal Molin (110 hurdles), Yemaneberhan Crippa (3000m), 4x100, 4x400
Women's: Zaynab Dosso (100m), Nadia Battocletti (5000m) Many records set between 2021-2024 (at worlds)
Anyone with any sense can see what's going on here. This country can't run and has magically turned up in 2 consecutive Olympic years... They have no development and apart from the 2 most recent EU championships they've had no drip...
She didn’t look particularly tired after winning the 10k a few days later (last night). It was noticeable that all the runners after her were lying on the floor after finishing and she was prancing around having barely broken a sweat. It just didn’t look like hard work to her.
However, she is a very strong cross country runner and has won many races so we will have to believe she’s had a good winter and is seeing the benefits now.
It’s the lack of fatigue that perplexes me. Unless she’s just very fit.
“The lack of fatigue” I’ve seen bandied around here endlessly on this message board as a ‘red-flag’, but that’s evidently without any consideration or knowledge of the characteristic response of an athlete’s particular aerobic metabolism. For example, look at the finish of any high school cross-country race, and you will see the whole gamut of response; some kids are able to walk away from the race quickly thereafter with a smile on their race, while others are collapsed on the ground.
It may be hilarious to you, but there are a lot of other athletes with what you can choose to call funny progressions, but unless you actually have some proof to provide to the AIU, or want to apply for a job in doping control, then you are just a rumor monger, no?
What I meant to say, was a lot of athletes *from many countries different countries, like Finland, Norway, the US, etc.
She didn’t look particularly tired after winning the 10k a few days later (last night). It was noticeable that all the runners after her were lying on the floor after finishing and she was prancing around having barely broken a sweat. It just didn’t look like hard work to her.
However, she is a very strong cross country runner and has won many races so we will have to believe she’s had a good winter and is seeing the benefits now.
It’s the lack of fatigue that perplexes me. Unless she’s just very fit.
Why would someone look particularly tired running a 10k nearly a minute slower than what she’s capable of? Based on the way she closed her 5k, Battocletti is currently in sub 14:30 and sub 30 shape. She’s very fit and just entering her prime.
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Yeah, no…However, some of those runners were born in different countries, Crippa was born in Ethiopia for instance, and became Italian citizens after a few years of arriving in Italy. Battocletti on the other hand has been very strong in the age groups and XC for the past few years, so her performance doesn’t necessarily come as a surprise. Not everything must have something to do with doping
Battocletti has improved a minute over the 5k in the last 4 years from aged 20-24, and 2 minutes in the last 6 years. That is a massive improvement at that age. By comparison, it would be like Valby improving from her present 14:52 to 13:52.
Absolutely. Improving from 15:46 to 14:46 is the same as improving from 14:52 to 13:52. Also the same as improving from 14:00 to 13:00 for Tsegay.
You are definitely one of the most stupid posters on this board. Which means a lot...
