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Anyway, my vote goes to Walnut, CA.
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Tibbs wrote:
Pontoise wrote:
Having anything in Chicago, LA or Boston would be a complete mistake. Too much crime. Too expensive.
Miami would be a great choice.
Ha! Miami. Good one
Why not Miami? For fans it would be a great choice. Fun stuff to do pre or post meet. You think people want to go to LA or Chicago instead? The people that live there leave and go to Miami for vacation.
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Staten MF Island!
Bulldoze the outlets and/or baseball stadium right by the ferry terminal. Easy ferry ride from Manhattan that most runners do once or twice a year. I'd rather get there than somewhere in Jersey or Queens.
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Pontoise wrote:
. You think people want to go to LA or Chicago instead?
Durr durr
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i like miami wrote:
Anyway, my vote goes to Walnut, CA.
Or, hold two back-to-back DL meets in Walnut and Homestead.
The athletes will go from L.A. to Miami.
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Pontoise wrote:
Tibbs wrote:
Ha! Miami. Good one
Why not Miami?
Again, I live in South Florida.
During the NCAA Championships this week, I did not want to go outside at all, let alone run. It is BLAZING hot. Right now I am looking out the window at a monsoon.
You want to the make the drive from Fort Lauderdale to Miami? I'm mapping that now.. 31 miles will take over an hour, and possibly much longer. 95 and the Turnpike are both a clusterf*ck.
Our mass transit is non-existant, except to go north and south. The Tri-rail sucks and Brightline costs a fortune.
People who vacation here stay near the beach and walk to the beach. Many are on South Beach, which isn't where a stadium would be.
Oh, and how it is going for Inter Miami in their pursuit of a stadium? They are are playing in Fort Lauderdale. Finding a place to build in Miami would be nearly impossible, and putting it out in Homestead would be a total fail.
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worst stadium rebuild in American history wrote:
the guy over there wrote:
If you had access to tons of cash and were tasked to put in a Hayward-esque track-only stadium anywhere in the US, where would you put it? Ideally, this would be a place with decent weather, a major airport, abundant hotels, fun nightlife, and a large population of sports enthusiasts.
the Hayward rebuild was botched. Lines at the men's urinals with small crowds. No utility space on the track. No equipment level in the stadium seats. No underground parking. Corrodors are too narrow, clog up with small crowds. No food service facilities inside the stadium. Instead thet make food twp blocks away, and used to cart the food on the asphalt street one hour before meets before the CIty of Eugene cited UO for food safety violations.
Oh, really?
Three eateries (Ashton's Eatins, English's Garden, Barbara's Waffles) inside of the stadium and independent vendors on the south concourse/plaza during larger events. The fan zone featuring food trucks is located on Agate Street just outside of the main spectator entry gate, not two blocks away. U of O has a huge food court located a block away across the street on Agate plus security has no issues with people bringing their own food and drink. My kid with severe food allergies has never been hassled, inspected, or asked to explain bringing a Chipotle order through the front gate.
Bathrooms are a non-issue. Lines are rare and short queues only start when everyone tries to hit the head during lulls in the schedule - just like halftime at a football game. The concourses are very wide and coated in the same surface as the track as the Ducks use them for training in bad weather.
The seats are plush, wide, have cupholders, and offer greater legroom than any other sports stadium or arena that I have ever visited. Plenty of ADA access is available. The only beef with the seating is that the east side is exposed to the afternoon sun and can get hot. Sightlines are fantastic throughout the complex.
Poster worst stadium... is a liar and likely has never been to the new Hayward. Perhaps he visited during the first season during COVID when masks were required and the concessions were not open? In any event, it's just more inaccurate bullsh** being peddled by a Eugene hater or one of the old farts that tried to block the renovation because "history". The new place is light years ahead on comfort, convenience, sightlines, and overall fan experience.
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It had been held in Sacramento and San Jose. Why not give them a chance again? Indianapolis held quite a few major meets as well in the past. I don't know why TAC/USAT&F no longer considers Indy.
These areas seem easier to get to than Eugene and I'm sure have more hotels for athletes and spectators.
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Madison. Good weather for NCAA and trials. Fans really show up for nuttycombe and nationals.
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Nashville
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The people who keep saying Miami, if they’ve ever visited all, probably came in winter and never left the vicinity of their condo on the beach. Miami (the actual city) has just as much crime as any other major city, terrible traffic with no mass transit system, is incredibly expensive, and on top of that it’s blazing hot and humid for 8 months out of the year. Unless you are only planning on having track meets from December through March, or not having events above 800m, it’s not going to work.
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RossiCheated wrote:
One BIG question should be WHEN will it be used for its most important purpose? If it is the NCAA Championships, then average weather in early June is crucial.
This is why I think Edwards Stadium in Berkeley, CA could have been the new Hayward Field, if more were invested in it. Out there, June Gloom lasts all summer. The marine layer keeps the temperature down in the afternoon and evenings. Even when it does get warmer, it's still that "dry heat" that everyone says isn't so bad.
Parking might be an issue, but it is easily accessible by public transit.
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Kingston
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Chicago, but with a retractable dome.
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honest question:
if USATF had the Olympic Trials in London or Berlin would the crowd be larger than it will be in Oregon?
I think it would, which is pretty amazing to think about.
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If I had access to lots of cash, one of the last investments I would make is building a stadium in the United States to host track meets. Hardly anyone outside these boards cares about track & field in the USA - sorry, that’s a fact and this is coming from a retired head coach at the college level and former runner.
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slothrop wrote:
honest question:
if USATF had the Olympic Trials in London or Berlin would the crowd be larger than it will be in Oregon?
I think it would, which is pretty amazing to think about.
It's probably easier and faster to get to London than Eugene for most of the east coast. Direct flights and public transportation? Sign me up
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slothrop wrote:
honest question:
if USATF had the Olympic Trials in London or Berlin would the crowd be larger than it will be in Oregon?
I think it would, which is pretty amazing to think about.
I suspect that you are correct. Brits and Germans would fill the stands (At least 50-60% capacity) to see a good meet. Some USA ex-pats would be there. Few American fans would jump the pond because the travel would be expensive and inconvenient, you know, like going to Eugene.
If no one travels to Oregon and no one else bids for future Trials, then the alternative is this scenario or just going to a selection system. Max might love selection because it's cheap and that means a fatter bonus for Max. Our sprinters and field event athletes would still earn medals and we can crow, "World's Greatest Track and Field Team!!!".
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