0.0% Margin of error: 0%
0.0% Margin of error: 0%
to the gills wrote:
None.
This is probably correct unfortunately. I would say anyone in top 15 are very suspicious. Anyone in top 10 there is probably little to no doubt.
Just do your job NADOs!
aiu listen wrote:
Aiu should take a look at the following meets:
59. Pfingstsportfest Rehlingen
Oordegem Meeting
Heusten Zolder
Pfungstadt Laufgala
Why these meets in particular? Are you alluding to someone in particular racing them, or because people seem to make big jumps at these races?
Heusden and Rehlingen have been renowned as World Class professional meets for decades and are supported by their national federations, both of which (Germany and Belgium) have some of the best funded antidoping agencies and tests per athlete.
Oordegem is becoming a bigger and more professional event every year. This year it is a bronze meeting, which means it definitely has in competition testing. It's also been moved to Brussels, so if you're going for the "race in the middle of nowhere" argument it doesn't hold up here.
Pfungstadt is a niche meet that only really caters to 800m runners and sometimes 1500. While people run fast there, we haven't seen any overly suspicious times... I can only remember George Mills running something that would even qualify for a major championship in the last few years.
The aiu can find that out for themselves
It's similar to asking: What percentage of law enforcement are dirty?
When you ask if clean, are you including bogus TUEs? Do you mean, never experienced with p.e.d.s? Do you mean rarely but an athlete feels guilty for experimenting?
Do you count low T men getting their T level near top of acceptable range?
clean? about 85%
what percentage are in a Salazar like grey zone where they exploit anything that may give an advantage as far as you can legally push it?
about 99%
I’m talking about distance athletes here. The sprinters are all juiced.
Athlete surveys indicate that more athletes dope than are caught. So we will never get an exact percentage of how many are doping. But we know that doping is throughout sport so that enables a conclusion that international sport and doping go hand in hand. If there are athletes who are clean we won't know because it is just as likely they aren't.
teetering on the edge wrote:
clean? about 85%
what percentage are in a Salazar like grey zone where they exploit anything that may give an advantage as far as you can legally push it?
about 99%I’m talking about distance athletes here. The sprinters are all juiced.
Your post doesn't make sense. Over the past (75 to 90) years, sprinters are only about (4 to 6)% faster today if we include 800m as a sprint. Fifteen-hundred meters and longer runners are (7 to 9)% faster today compared to (75 to 90) years ago. You are telling me the sprinters are the ones on p.e.d.s??? I can explain improvements in sprinting (including 800m) about (97.5 to 100)% due to shoes and track surface.
Look at the all time best lists. 100m to marathon. Then see how many caught dopers are on the lists. One can assume there are a lot more who dope and just didn't get caught. Same today.
Dont forget to do your job aiu!
Just test people with sus progressions who are running qualification standards!
I could drop some names of Europeans who are definitely on some sauce!
They are on the sauce to qualify for Rome and Paris and are mainly athletes in nothing-to-lose situation. They think that they don’t get tested bc they are not medal contenders.
It’s ridiculous to see ;)
(Central Europe)
(Unnatural progress)
(Sus coaches)
I know who you are talking about. Let them have their moment and the future will tell if they get away with it…
karma usually hits sooner or later ;)
The funny thing is that they don’t look like athletes
anyone with some expertise could spot it immediately
they have some connections to a doping coach (responsible for a few doping incidents…)
This anonymous survey found that 2% of US Olympians, Paralympians, and Pan-American Games competitors were hardcore dopers (roids, EPO etc).
Over 9% if one includes PEDs that are "only" forbidden in-competition. And only in the last 12 months - they didn't ask for the whole career.
When you guys are talking about unnatural progression, what sample size are you using to compare that against? If everyone is doing, 'unnatural' progression would just be normal progression right?
Very few that compete internationally are clean. Micro dosing, hormones, other PEDs are all part of a typical pro’s training regimen and at this point they are so brainwashed that it’s ok to so since everyone else is it becomes an afterthought. If I were to guess I’d say 15%. They are still some out there with morals.
TarZanIQ wrote:
When you guys are talking about unnatural progression, what sample size are you using to compare that against? If everyone is doing, 'unnatural' progression would just be normal progression right?
There are many differences between dopers, for example:
- hard core all out all the time (corrupt or lenient NADO, or old times) --> e.g. Coe, Armstrong, El G, Kiprop --> progression can look normal but performance is not
- hard core all out as late starter --> this is the unnatural progression like Katir and Houlihan
- microdose with hard drugs
- microdose with stimulants
- fake illness to get TUE
See also the link from Survery Sais this morning.