OKay, so should we interpret this as the WA rule is maintain the position that runners have from 200 meters out? that's a bit excessive.
Yes, the WA rules seem to require that the designated official at the start/finish line can somehow have an unimpeded view of the 200m area entering the bend and line the runners up in order. An order that can completely change by the time the incoming runner hits the exchange zone. For an example of exchange chaos see the high school finals and Bullis at the Penn Relays.
honestly, i appreciate it. as much as the order can change from 200 out, that rule can eliminate a lot of chaos.
i wonder how this works for indoor. maintain position from the order of previous handoff?
here is a great picture showing how different the line of outgoing runners is form the order of incoming runners:
The incoming runner will hand off to the outgoing runner in the common exchange zone (Green triangles in a row to Green triangles in a row). The lane of exchange will be determined by the incoming runners position with the other runners as they come out of the final turn. The incoming runner will need to run to their teammate.
it does appear to be the same, though no strong language about DQ
In World Athletics rules. It is going into the final turn that determines the position, not coming out of it.
Switched positions after being placed in order by the officials.
WTF?
They have another chance to qualify tomorrow but they are out for tonight.
This World Athletics rule is stupid. Adeleke on the Irish team was leading by a mile on her leg, but had to go from running in lane 1 to cross to lane 5 to hand over the baton and in doing, so her outgoing runner lost valuable time. This is unfair.
Trust WA to have some idiotic rule that is to the disadvantage of the sport, just like its idiotic false start rule.
Switched positions after being placed in order by the officials.
WTF?
They have another chance to qualify tomorrow but they are out for tonight.
This World Athletics rule is stupid. Adeleke on the Irish team was leading by a mile on her leg, but had to go from running in lane 1 to cross to lane 5 to hand over the baton and in doing, so her outgoing runner lost valuable time. This is unfair.
Trust WA to have some idiotic rule that is to the disadvantage of the sport, just like its idiotic false start rule.
it adds to the strategy of a relay. if you want good lane position, start with faster runners. the ireland women started with their slowest runner.
This World Athletics rule is stupid. Adeleke on the Irish team was leading by a mile on her leg, but had to go from running in lane 1 to cross to lane 5 to hand over the baton and in doing, so her outgoing runner lost valuable time. This is unfair.
Trust WA to have some idiotic rule that is to the disadvantage of the sport, just like its idiotic false start rule.
it adds to the strategy of a relay. if you want good lane position, start with faster runners. the ireland women started with their slowest runner.
Strategy to create subpar performances and unnecessary bottlenecks in the exchange zone, sure. A massive success that is.
it adds to the strategy of a relay. if you want good lane position, start with faster runners. the ireland women started with their slowest runner.
Strategy to create subpar performances and unnecessary bottlenecks in the exchange zone, sure. A massive success that is.
you don't want to get caught up in that, whether created organically or through rules, which is precisely why many teams run their fastest runner in the 1 spot, though usually it is their second fastest. if you actually have a good relay team, and you run your fast people in the correct spots, you will be fine.
if you were in 5th place 600 meters in, you did something wrong.
for indoor track 4x200, you run your 2 fastest people in the first two spots in a competitive field. those races will teach you the importance of positioning very quickly.
Strategy to create subpar performances and unnecessary bottlenecks in the exchange zone, sure. A massive success that is.
you don't want to get caught up in that, whether created organically or through rules, which is precisely why many teams run their fastest runner in the 1 spot, though usually it is their second fastest. if you actually have a good relay team, and you run your fast people in the correct spots, you will be fine.
if you were in 5th place 600 meters in, you did something wrong.
for indoor track 4x200, you run your 2 fastest people in the first two spots in a competitive field. those races will teach you the importance of positioning very quickly.
Few if any teams ever run their fastest runners in the no 1 spot. Fastest runners are usually the anchor positions. Occasionally, they may do 2nd positions because of the staggers.
Using the positioning of leading into the 2nd curve is way too early to determine exchange/baton passing positionings.
you don't want to get caught up in that, whether created organically or through rules, which is precisely why many teams run their fastest runner in the 1 spot, though usually it is their second fastest. if you actually have a good relay team, and you run your fast people in the correct spots, you will be fine.
if you were in 5th place 600 meters in, you did something wrong.
for indoor track 4x200, you run your 2 fastest people in the first two spots in a competitive field. those races will teach you the importance of positioning very quickly.
Few if any teams ever run their fastest runners in the no 1 spot. Fastest runners are usually the anchor positions. Occasionally, they may do 2nd positions because of the staggers.
Using the positioning of leading into the 2nd curve is way too early to determine exchange/baton passing positionings.
it has been that way for a long time, I'd imagine. and ive never seen anybody complain about it until now. and read on, I said "usually it is their second fastest"
only the rarest very stacked team with slim margins will start with their slowest.
the problem with Ireland was caused by running their slowest person no.1. DUMB. ANd. their fastest person no.2. unheard of.
This is just not a big deal, and if you wait until the final straight to shuffle runners, the movement can cause terrible chaos with the speed of runners at the world level.
Switched positions after being placed in order by the officials.
WTF?
They have another chance to qualify tomorrow but they are out for tonight.
This World Athletics rule is stupid. Adeleke on the Irish team was leading by a mile on her leg, but had to go from running in lane 1 to cross to lane 5 to hand over the baton and in doing, so her outgoing runner lost valuable time. This is unfair.
Trust WA to have some idiotic rule that is to the disadvantage of the sport, just like its idiotic false start rule.
The officials messed up in placing the Irish third leg in the last position from the curb. Ireland should have had the #2 position, but Portugal also had a green uniform top which confused the person who made the erroneous third leg order placement that was set.
Are the rules different? It happens in every high school and college race.
never did it once. never saw anyone else do it. seen teams use alternates but never try and change the order after reporting.
You misunderstood. They are not talking about switching the order of their own teams runners. They are talking about the runners for all teams that are waiting in a line in the exchange zone for their teammate to hand them the baton. WA rules state that the officials will place the outgoing runners in order based on the order of the incoming runners as they enter the far turn. If a runner intentionally changes their position after this, they are subject to dq. This is what the US runner did. He was placed 3rd in line and then moved down to the first position as the incoming runners came in. In most high school races, the runners will switch positions right up until the last second which causes all kinds of problems with exchanges. The WA rule is a much better way to do it.
you don't want to get caught up in that, whether created organically or through rules, which is precisely why many teams run their fastest runner in the 1 spot, though usually it is their second fastest. if you actually have a good relay team, and you run your fast people in the correct spots, you will be fine.
if you were in 5th place 600 meters in, you did something wrong.
for indoor track 4x200, you run your 2 fastest people in the first two spots in a competitive field. those races will teach you the importance of positioning very quickly.
Few if any teams ever run their fastest runners in the no 1 spot. Fastest runners are usually the anchor positions. Occasionally, they may do 2nd positions because of the staggers.
Using the positioning of leading into the 2nd curve is way too early to determine exchange/baton passing positionings.
GB ran Matthew Hudson Smith on leg 1 in both the heats and final.
I learned a new way to disqualify every year. Thanks to USA because they find a way to do it year after year. Can we have the list of most relay DQs in history
Few if any teams ever run their fastest runners in the no 1 spot. Fastest runners are usually the anchor positions. Occasionally, they may do 2nd positions because of the staggers.
Using the positioning of leading into the 2nd curve is way too early to determine exchange/baton passing positionings.
GB ran Matthew Hudson Smith on leg 1 in both the heats and final.
Botswana didn't. Nor did the USA. The USA never does. Nor did Belgium. I never said it was never done. It is just a rare occurrence.
And you expect these two to meddle? Ooh, leave alone meddling, being top 50😂😂😂😂. Those two can't even be top 40. They can't withstand the onslaught of Ethiopian,Ugandan and Kenyan might over the 26.2 miles distance. The earlier you accept, the better for you!!
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