As far as I know the top British guys wont make much more than a solid salary...I guess if you include a few European and golden league meets you can do pretty well! were in the wrong sport as far as money goes!
As far as I know the top British guys wont make much more than a solid salary...I guess if you include a few European and golden league meets you can do pretty well! were in the wrong sport as far as money goes!
you're dreaming - not a chance
Mtn Dew wrote:
You get a salary if you have a contract with a shoe company or some other entity. Most folks make more money in appearance fees and money for finishes. Contracts with shoe companies are there as a safety net and help with getting gear and that sort of thing, but as I understand it you can make it okay without a deal from Nike or Adidas or whatever. I have a friend that was recently dropped from his shoe company and hasn't gotten a deal with anyone else but as far as I know he's doing okay money wise, he just has to run every meet he can.
I'd be interested to know..does he get a w-2 at the end of the year or a 1099, for doing his taxes with?
$1000 a month on a house----the team members share housing---true cost $300 a month
You spend way too much on equipment
You spend way too much traveling to competitions. Do you stay at the Ritz or what?
Very few athletes get health insurance through their clubs. All the clubs I am aware of do not provide health insurance.
I look at the rosters and see the athlete's deserve what they are getting. Are they suppossed to give the money to your worthless a$$?
Out of pocket cost to each club: $6,000-8,000 per athlete.
jeb wrote:
I'd be interested to know..does he get a w-2 at the end of the year or a 1099, for doing his taxes with?
From what I understand from the pro guys I've talked with they have to write out a big check at the end of the year for the amount they owe. So if they make $100,000 overseas they have to make sure they have enough left over by April 15th to pay for taxes. It's a bitch.
mizunorunner8 wrote:
How much do pro runners make off of base salary?
webb = 250,000
what about everybody else...
Here you will find the sad truth:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/edu/142277289.htmlthe question was about pro runners. high school coaches are not pro runners, unless that happens to be another job for them. the salary posted is pretty typical
these guys are my bitch's
Greedy Bastards wrote:
Of course many of these athletes are being paid. All of these camps provide housing (year round). Even traditional sports do not receive this. I spend $1000 a month for a small house. That is $12,000 a year. Now I spend about $2,000 a year on equipment. I also travel to 2 major marathons a year and that costs me about $2,000 including travel meals and lodging. Some of these athletes are also receiving health insurance and access to medical which costs an additional $2,000 a year. So if that means that someone is receiving $16,000 worth of stuff that I am currently paying for I VIEW THEM AS PROFESSIONALS. That is if they don't win any prize money or if they don't have an type of incentive bonuses available. I think that there are several americans that are way overpaid. Take a look at the Rosters of Hansons or Team Minnesota or Team Big Sur and tell me if you think they deserve all of that.
So 2nd flight U.S. runners don't deserve $16,000 per year, but MLB, NFL, etc. benchwarmers deserve $100,000 per year? I think you should be glad for any runners who are getting money because it's hard for runners to come by with their comparative ability and visibility compared to other sports.
i have a friend who has run sub 14 for 5k and sub 29 for 10k on the track and ran a 216 marathon, he told me nike and a couple of other shoe companies he ran for gave him free shoes and clothes, but he said the shoe companies never gave him any money and he is american.
Jason Rexing got $50k a year from Nike when he was on the Farm Team. He only ran 13:55 indoors. But it was in trainers. And the man can ejaculate through solid steel. Not kidding.
everything above is more or less true. 28:00-28:10 10k gets you 12k. 2:13 the same. all income is 1099 and many companies make you pay tax on the gear. So that means nobody has any health insurance, which is a great expense. sub 14 and 29 will get you shoes, maybe. I dont remember the 4-10 group ever getting 20k to run at any marathon, and I do remember one of those guys being offerred a number at boston and that was it.
So 2nd flight U.S. runners don't deserve $16,000 per year, but MLB, NFL, etc. benchwarmers deserve $100,000 per year?
I think league minimum for MLB is 200,000k.
All sub 29 min or 14 min or 2:20 marathoners receive Health Insurance from Hansons-Brooks. They also receive housing (obviously travel and equipment) and there is a bonus structure.
Ah, but that is common knowledge, is it not?
This is NOT the sport to be in if you want to make a living, obviously.
Rodgers at one point had a 3-year deal with a shoe company (brooks? tiger?) for 80, 100, then 120K per year for 3 years. After that I have no clue.
I believe Al Salazar gave Cosmas Ndeti $500 to wear a NIKE singlet the first time Ndeti ran and won Boston.
The money for the run of the mill national level competitor seems to be around what one could make working as a temp office worker.
No wonder kids gravitate to football, basketball, baseball et al
pretty much true wrote:
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So 2nd flight U.S. runners don't deserve $16,000 per year, but MLB, NFL, etc. benchwarmers deserve $100,000 per year?
Moot point. Discussed hundreds of times prior, but pro sports that fill 60k-100k person stadiums 80 times a year (plus TV, sponsors, concessions, gear, etc.) generate much more cash than some hack runner. The people on the bench do generate top line revenue, as they add to the talent pipeline and sub in for injured players - this funnels down to the minor leagues – which is probably closer to a road whore in the scheme of things; except for the fact that the minor league player just might make it big one day.
Most top tier road races are barley able to cover their expenses – I bet one game at Yankee stadium makes more money (net income) in alcohol sales than the entire NYC Marathon. The problem is there is one marathon a year vs. 80 home games….
This is a depressing thread.
We may all just as well go out and play golf for 18 holes. That would be less painful and a lot more fun. Probably expensive if you hit a bad shot and wrap the offending club around a tree from time to time though.
Soccer and hoops are more fun than that, too, come to think of it.
Geez.
I agree, maybe I'll start biking.
I don't think that it is depressing at all. I think that 100% of distance runners in the USA are being payed what they deserve. If you want to make 6 figures run faster. If you do run fast enough you WILL make a comfortable living. Distance Running is not successful because people want to be paid more than their worth.