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not even best of the 70s wrote:
Jamnit wrote:
Whatever you’re drinking, we all want some. Jimmy page was average?
Randy Rhodes alone reduced him to below 50th percentile, if he was ever above it. Ever heard of Randy Rhodes?
As GNR poster implies, even Slash was light-years better. And Slash was not even great! Relatively pedestrian for a shredder. You want a great guitarist, check out Timo Tolkki.
Slash is no where near the guitarist that Page is. It’s not even close. Comparing the two is laughable, yet that doesn’t stop people without a musical background from doing it. Page was an accomplished session guitarist even in his teenage years. The only knock I have on Page is that sometimes live he would be too high to improvise well.
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not even best of the 70s wrote:
Both Aerosmith and AC/DC rocked way harder both in the 70s and beyond. Led Zeppelin is not even close.
Like the Grateful Dead, another "blues rock" band, Led Zeppelin became popular by mass formation hysteria, not quality. Robert Plant was a terrible singer and a girlie-man. Their guitarist was average, and his fans who thought otherwise were soon silenced by the metal virtuosos of the late 70s and 80s.
Hell, they didn't even rock as hard as Black Sabbath.
AC/DC and Aerosmith are absolutely BLAND. AC/DC is just squawking, three-chord talentless noise, and Aerosmith is Foreigner on espresso. Both boring, wonder bread bands compared to Led Zeppelin.
Grateful Dead falls in a different genre altogether.
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HaughtyHubris wrote:
not even best of the 70s wrote:
Randy Rhodes alone reduced him to below 50th percentile, if he was ever above it. Ever heard of Randy Rhodes?
As GNR poster implies, even Slash was light-years better. And Slash was not even great! Relatively pedestrian for a shredder. You want a great guitarist, check out Timo Tolkki.
Slash is no where near the guitarist that Page is. It’s not even close. Comparing the two is laughable,
You know nothing of music, you only know posing.
Blues rock is the usual excuse for sloppy bands that can't hit notes right. I bet you were in a band like that. To be fair, the labels and MTV love that. If you win the lottery you might be packaged as the next authentic sound, like Cobain was.
There's always a market for a sound that seems like it was born in a garage or a bar. But suck is what it is, no matter how marketed. A good band like, say, Rush has no need of that.21 -
not even best of the 70s wrote:
You know nothing of music, you only know posing.
Blues rock is the usual excuse for sloppy bands that can't hit notes right. I bet you were in a band like that. To be fair, the labels and MTV love that. If you win the lottery you might be packaged as the next authentic sound, like Cobain was.
There's always a market for a sound that seems like it was born in a garage or a bar. But suck is what it is, no matter how marketed. A good band like, say, Rush has no need of that.
Rush? LOL
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Jamnit wrote:
Especially if you love blues-based rock ‘n’ roll, which every real American and Englishman does.
I am also certain that Robert Plant stuffed a sock in his pants before he filmed the song remains the same. But I cannot prove that conclusively.
One of the great bands, the fact they knew them blues only adds to it. But they are not the best at anything they are among the best however. Own most their stuff great great sound.
You can't talk the iconic rock bands and not have Led Zeppelin there,
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Jamnit wrote:
Especially if you love blues-based rock ‘n’ roll, which every real American and Englishman does.
I am also certain that Robert Plant stuffed a sock in his pants before he filmed the song remains the same. But I cannot prove that conclusively.
Someone said this to Robert Plant once he replied 30% of the material they put out was acoustic. The percentage isn't really that high but they did have a significant proportion of that stuff.
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Gonna say Van Halen, but I agree, The Zep is the best! Physical Graffiti is the hardest!
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Same Level/10 years Later wrote:
Gonna say Van Halen, but I agree, The Zep is the best! Physical Graffiti is the hardest!
Not a thing in the world wrong with Van Halen
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Cream was the first and best long jam blues rock band. Others saw their musical genius and tried to emulate it.
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spoonful wrote:
Cream was the first and best long jam blues rock band. Others saw their musical genius and tried to emulate it.
Great band. Blues based. Not really hard rock. Crossroads come close
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The best.
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not even best of the 70s wrote:
HaughtyHubris wrote:
Slash is no where near the guitarist that Page is. It’s not even close. Comparing the two is laughable,
You know nothing of music, you only know posing.
Blues rock is the usual excuse for sloppy bands that can't hit notes right. I bet you were in a band like that. To be fair, the labels and MTV love that. If you win the lottery you might be packaged as the next authentic sound, like Cobain was.
There's always a market for a sound that seems like it was born in a garage or a bar. But suck is what it is, no matter how marketed. A good band like, say, Rush has no need of that.
You just described slash and Guns N’ Roses perfectly. They were good for the time period they existed but they lack musical depth. Perfect fodder for MTV. Slash is a good guitarist for his generation, but he is not a great guitarist in general. This is all subjective, but I’d take Page as my lead guitarist over Slash any day.
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I concluded extensive research into Led Zeppelin including their albums, concerts, influences and what I call derivations (pre and post Zeppelin work) this past summer. It resulted in a meticulous 14.4GB mp3/flac collection of music that I listen to most everyday. Here are some gems from my derivatives folder (but not all):
JPJ, JP
RP
JP
JPJ
JPJ
JP
RP
JB
JP/Clapton
JP
JPJ
RP
JB practicing
... and, of course, the super rare Johnny Volcano
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Hold the fk up wrote:
not even best of the 70s wrote:
Both Aerosmith and AC/DC rocked way harder both in the 70s and beyond. Led Zeppelin is not even close.
Like the Grateful Dead, another "blues rock" band, Led Zeppelin became popular by mass formation hysteria, not quality. Robert Plant was a terrible singer and a girlie-man. Their guitarist was average, and his fans who thought otherwise were soon silenced by the metal virtuosos of the late 70s and 80s.
Hell, they didn't even rock as hard as Black Sabbath.
AC/DC and Aerosmith are absolutely BLAND. AC/DC is just squawking, three-chord talentless noise, and Aerosmith is Foreigner on espresso. Both boring, wonder bread bands compared to Led Zeppelin.
Grateful Dead falls in a different genre altogether.
At their peak AC/DC and Aerosmith would both had been the opening act had they toured with Zeppelin.
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Hold the fk up wrote:
not even best of the 70s wrote:
Both Aerosmith and AC/DC rocked way harder both in the 70s and beyond. Led Zeppelin is not even close.
Like the Grateful Dead, another "blues rock" band, Led Zeppelin became popular by mass formation hysteria, not quality. Robert Plant was a terrible singer and a girlie-man. Their guitarist was average, and his fans who thought otherwise were soon silenced by the metal virtuosos of the late 70s and 80s.
Hell, they didn't even rock as hard as Black Sabbath.
AC/DC and Aerosmith are absolutely BLAND. AC/DC is just squawking, three-chord talentless noise, and Aerosmith is Foreigner on espresso. Both boring, wonder bread bands compared to Led Zeppelin.
Grateful Dead falls in a different genre altogether.
AC/DC is a great band. Calling them talentless is crazy. If you think AC/DC is "talentless noise" you just don't like rock music.
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In 1969, Led Zeppelin hit their stride and released Led Zeppelin II. The song that topped the charts in 1969 was Sugar Sugar by the Archies. Compare that to a Whole Lotta Love from Led Zeppelin II. Other hits from 1969 were Sweet Caroline by Neil Diamond and Let the Sunshine In by the Fifth Dimension. Led Zeppelin was so revolutionary for its time and still holds up today. I think that is because each member of the band not only gelled so well together, but also brought a completely unique sound to the band. No one in rock of pop had a drum set that sounded like Bonham's. Most rock drummers would go into the studio and play on a kit that belonged to the studio because it had been mic-ed up and dampened in just the right way. Bonham used his own kit and was able to perfectly capture the resonance and depth of his snare drum and the timbre of his cymbals. Even today, it is rare to hear a drum set recorded on a pop or rock track that sounds as good as Bonham's did over 50 years ago. Same is true for Page's guitar and Plant's vocals.
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