Sounds like you should be on meds too, bro.
Sounds like you should be on meds too, bro.
ur supposed to be rearing a child rn thats why youre all effed up brah too much energy going towards abstract brainwash data.
no longer care wrote:
I just feel like things are falling apart at the seams. everything and anything. objectively, the entire planet is increasingly worse off than it once was. the collective unconscious seems to be sinking to a lower vibration...
as a younger person, and somebody who talks to many younger-person peers, we all share a lack of faith and hope in the world. most my peers (mid 20s) are on psychotropic medication and act like that's normal. I don't know what's happening with society but there seems to be a moral or spiritual rot at the core.
my dreams of securing a prosperous career, owning a house, and raising a family seem more impractical than ever. I hate victimhood, and I'm doing okay right now, but when I talk to oldheads, they actually agree with me.
some tell me, "I'm glad I'm on my way out"
I have had that feeling too. Just try to find things to do that you enjoy. It's not that dreading your existence will change the situation, so you might as well make the best of it.
Caare wrote:
Text 988 if you need help. That is then suicide hotline.
Instead of trying to bring everyone else down, please contact them.
no longer care wrote:
we're all being played. the once-fighters are now resigned to their fate
Played by who? And why are you letting them win?
It sounds like you were never a fighter. You're just sad that some macho figure isn't riding in on a horse to save you?
brahh wrote:
ur supposed to be rearing a child rn thats why youre all effed up brah too much energy going towards abstract brainwash data.
This is remarkably insightful.
20-somethings are not having kids because they think the world is going down the drain.
AND
20-somethings think the world is going down the drain because they are not having kids.
no longer care wrote:
I just feel like things are falling apart at the seams. everything and anything. objectively, the entire planet is increasingly worse off than it once was. the collective unconscious seems to be sinking to a lower vibration...
as a younger person, and somebody who talks to many younger-person peers, we all share a lack of faith and hope in the world. most my peers (mid 20s) are on psychotropic medication and act like that's normal. I don't know what's happening with society but there seems to be a moral or spiritual rot at the core.
my dreams of securing a prosperous career, owning a house, and raising a family seem more impractical than ever. I hate victimhood, and I'm doing okay right now, but when I talk to oldheads, they actually agree with me.
some tell me, "I'm glad I'm on my way out"
You're right, but what you choose to do with that knowledge is up to you. You have two options:
1. continue to be sad about the way things are, and feel helpless and apathetic as a result.
2. put the effort in to make your situation better, which it sounds like you are, keep it up.
My suggestions:
1. close down your social media - nothing but people living fake lives and spreading their worthless opinions.
2. turn off the news - nothing but fear mongering/propaganda
3. If your into politics, find a new hobby. They don't care about you. Getting mad at something someone did or did not say is an utter waste of your time and energy.
4. Keep being proactive. A lot of times, when people feel hopeless, they also get apathetic. They don't seem to know how to get motivated/where to start. The answer is to do just about anything. Get the ball rolling and keep it rolling.
5. Invest in yourself. Any time you start to think about how bad things are, go learn something new, doesn't even matter what. You can't fix the whole world, but you can improve yourself.
6. Set your own moral code. Just because society is going down the drain doesn't mean you have to. There are many like-minded people out there.
7. Be patient. Your mid 20s are the grinding years. No one wants to grind. It sucks, but there's no way around it. Eventually you'll find better opportunities. Those opportunities will improve your world.
"Things fall apart, the center does not hold." The universe tends toward complexity and chaos and entropy. One thing out of many for humanity is the growing onslaught of greedheads and crooks at every turn in every corner of our society slithering under the door, on the phone, on the t.v.' on the Net' and in every nook and cranny of our society working on you', lying,' conning, exaggerating, wheedling and cajoling to get your support, your sympathy, your heart and soul and your money. from sales hucksters to politicians to religious figureheads: theres no Devil; hes just a scapegoat, a personification of the evil inherent in man. Need a joke here to go away with....oh well.
no longer care wrote:
I just feel like things are falling apart at the seams. everything and anything. objectively, the entire planet is increasingly worse off than it once was.
Every. Time. You. Read. Something. in. The. News. remember this old axiom about news... "If it bleeds, it leads." That means that violent, negative stories get top priority and then they are further magnified by social media.
As a result, you get a steady stream of negative news that only stops when an even bigger negative story occurs.
Take climate change. In 70 years, sea levels will less than a foot higher if the most likely IPCC forecast occurs. That's barely noticeable from a seasonal storm. You will be approaching 100 by then, assuming you're still alive. It simply is not likely to be that big of deal in your lifetime. If it gets worse after you're 100, technology will have advanced enough to deal with it.
This has happened over and over and over again in human history. It's a CRISIS and... oh, wait, nothing happened. Nuclear war with the Soviet Union. War over Cuba. The coming Ice Age. The Y2K crisis (that's year 2000. This was a really big deal in 1998-1999). Peak Oil (Peak Oil was a very big deal in 2005. Many experts thought that we were running out of oil and it would lead to a massive increase in energy costs. Then, experts invented technology (fracking) to solve the problem. THE POLAR BEARS ARE BECOMING EXTINCT. Only, now we know that the polar bear population is migratory and actually thriving.
I'm not saying the world is a safe place or that it's perfect. I ran today just as a light rain began. The smell of fresh rain and ozone in the fall air was just wonderful. It's good to be alive!
So just kick yourself in your own @ss and stop feeling sorry for yourself! YOU are responsible for your attitude.
Hello. I was born in 1905. My mother was a heroin addict, she bought it at the drugstore across the street. My dad died from injuries suffered in the Spanish-American War. Nobody cares about that now because we still hate Mexico, but love that Modelo beer!
My sister died from the Spanish Flu. Who knew you should wash your hands? Crazy!
My brother died in World War 1, I didn't go, I have brain damage from the heroin. I grew up to be a street sweeper, but lost my job during the Great Depression. I turned 35 before that was over, but by then I couldn't walk, cholera killed me.
Sorry rent is high on your Seattle apartment, and you don't want to live in Iowa where you could get a better job.
no longer care wrote:
I just feel like things are falling apart at the seams. everything and anything. objectively, the entire planet is increasingly worse off than it once was. the collective unconscious seems to be sinking to a lower vibration...
as a younger person, and somebody who talks to many younger-person peers, we all share a lack of faith and hope in the world. most my peers (mid 20s) are on psychotropic medication and act like that's normal. I don't know what's happening with society but there seems to be a moral or spiritual rot at the core.
my dreams of securing a prosperous career, owning a house, and raising a family seem more impractical than ever. I hate victimhood, and I'm doing okay right now, but when I talk to oldheads, they actually agree with me.
some tell me, "I'm glad I'm on my way out"
Yes I know exactly what you mean. I feel that way if I put my hope in people, and man-made institutions, rather than God. We despair because we have no sense of eternal authority, no understanding of our purpose in the world, and what will save us.
“Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace…You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness.”
Romans 8:5-6, 9-10
You stare at a screen that concentrates the most negative, fear-stoking, anxiety provoking things in the world for you, and you wonder why you have a feeling of "dread"?
Logoff social media, streaming, television and horror movies for two weeks and this will go away.
During that time take a walk outside. Look around. Do you see the world ending, nuclear bombs exploding, murders happening, or other apocalyptic things happening? I doubt you will. You'll probably be bored at how little "existential dread" is happening in your actual world versus the internet and television version of the world.
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
Hello. I was born in 1905. My mother was a heroin addict, she bought it at the drugstore across the street. My dad died from injuries suffered in the Spanish-American War. Nobody cares about that now because we still hate Mexico, but love that Modelo beer!
My sister died from the Spanish Flu. Who knew you should wash your hands? Crazy!
My brother died in World War 1, I didn't go, I have brain damage from the heroin. I grew up to be a street sweeper, but lost my job during the Great Depression. I turned 35 before that was over, but by then I couldn't walk, cholera killed me.
Sorry rent is high on your Seattle apartment, and you don't want to live in Iowa where you could get a better job.
Well said. I'm currently reading a non-fiction book called Empire of the Summer Moon which is about the wars between Native Americans and the European settlers on the continent. The amount of senseless robbery, rape, murder, mayhem and mutilations of men, women and children, by both sides was mind boggling. Disease and starvation were rampant with no cures. Conditions were brutal. Lives were short. There was no justice, no laws, no grocery stores or even houses out on the open plains. If you didn't kill a buffalo or deer every few weeks, you and your family died. Even if you did, you might get raided by "Bluecoats" or a waring tribe, then tortured, killed and dismembered. Others were taken captive and made slaves. This was only 150 years ago, in the lifetime of my grandfather's grandfather.
You bet your arse we have it good now, compared to any time in the recent or distant past.
The dread and despair makes me want to move to North Sentinel Island and live with the prehistoric people.
If I could only figure out a way to convince them that I'm a good guy.
"It is well known that the Sentinelese are ferocious warriors when protecting their island. Even though only a few individuals live on the heavily forested island, they have consistently displayed a hostile attitude toward any attempts at interaction from the outside world. The members of the Sentinelese tribe are the only ones who can adequately describe their profound contempt for the rest of civilization. Historians and anthropologists suspect this practice dates back to the 1880s when British colonists traveled to the island and abducted some of the natives."
There were a lot of people on the Titanic after the gut wrenching noise who said with an assuring smile “we will be fine”.
no floating wrote:
There were a lot of people on the Titanic after the gut wrenching noise who said with an assuring smile “we will be fine”.
There were a lot of people living during the Great Depression who said, with a look of terror, “it's the end of the world”.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.
I think a big part of it is that every single media source has now been captured by industry. Once the money sharks taste blood in the water in a medium of communication they go on a feeding frenzy. This is most evident on cable news networks when, even when they're not being partisan shills, they totally misrepresent information because the nonsensical headlines they generate attract attention and ad revenue. When I was growing up in the 1990s and 2000s the Internet was still fresh and was a hopeful frontier. You could find a blog or a video series about real passions, opinions, etc. Even though TV and radio was crap I could still have a genuine, human experience online. That's not true anymore. Most sites have been consolidated into giga platforms filled to the brim with corporate plants and click bait to get some more juicy money out of you. Unfortunately we have no mainstream alternative to the internet yet so we are stuck with the lowered collective consciousness you describe because that state is what keeps you doomscrolling and making these people money.
You want my advice? Get offline. Take up an old school hobby that people have done for hundreds of years before modern tech liker gardening (and running!). You'll feel way better about things and I don't mean that in an "ignorance is bliss" way. Right now you are likely perceptually assaulted and overstimulated with worthless crap to make a buck from your misery and you need to divest yourself from it (I consider myself coming to LRC an indulgence I'm trying to reduce).
I do think though we have genuinely mismanaged population growth and that is a huge contributor. Between me being a kid and now we've added something like 75 million people to the US. I'm barely 30. It boggles my mind how this is possible. I'm not surprised we hear so much about high housing costs, food costs, ecological issues, F'd up labor markets, etc.
Also I'd like to reiterate before some LRC schizo replies to me when I complain about these information sources I am not complaining about things like info coming from scientific bodies like the IPCC and that many of today's issues aren't real. I am complaining about the radio stations, cable networks, YouTubers, bloggers, etc. that have neither the morality nor the competency to distribute this information correctly.
Nearing 55. Yes I do, as I have nearly every day since around 12.
but it’s less severe than at any time pre-30, and every day I do something valuable for others, it’s even less.
You worry about “spiritual rot”? Sure, it’s there, nearly pervasive. And there are also many fine people who do wonderful things. Do you consider it mollifying to know that people have fretted just as you have, in the face of similar disconcerting circumstances, for thousands of years?