I don't see the problem. They both achieved the same feat so it makes sense to give both of them the gold. The same applies to runners that achieve the same time down to the thousandth: they wouldn't be told to have a run-off, so why should field athletes?
Breaking a tie in running events go past thousandths to ten-thousandths if needed. The effort in field events to break a tie is much less stringent than runners repeating their race.
Ties in field events are always broken at all levels including middle school. I have never heard of athletes being allowed to agree to tie until the HJ a few years ago and now this. One thing t&f has promoted from its inception is "there are no ties in t&f".
The rule is actually if no one clears the height, the go down a height. If both make it, back up. If neither make it, down another height. This goes on until one clears and the other does not.
It’s in the World Athletics competition rule book. If they’re tied at the end and both don’t want to do a jump off, then that’s it. If enough of these keep happening and World Athletics has some motivation to change their rules, they will.
they wouldn't be told to have a run-off, so why should field athletes?
they wouldn't and they aren't.
some ties for gold and silver happened at the winter olympics.
but they should have a run-off tho.
change the rules, fix the problem, don't let athletes decide if they want to share medals.
one day they'll all jump 4 meters and miss the rest on purpose and they'll have to award gold to everyone. a sh*tshow.
Messi and Mbappe would never hug after 140 minutes and say "yeah bro let's share the world cup we're tired and risking injury"
The prisoner's dilemma prevents this. There is no incentive for an individual to jump 4 meters and risk another competitor betraying them and jumping higher to get the advantage. It's safe to assume they all tried their hardest and just happened to have equal performances at the end.
I don't think penalty shootouts are good tiebreakers either; continuous extra time is a better format for team sports. In pole vault/high jump, it makes sense that the best performance and attempts needed to reach that level are used to determine victory. "The first person to redo something they already did" as a tiebreaker has nothing to do with an athlete's best performance/progression to their best, so isn't a good system, in my opinion.
It’s in the World Athletics competition rule book. If they’re tied at the end and both don’t want to do a jump off, then that’s it. If enough of these keep happening and World Athletics has some motivation to change their rules, they will.
I don't think anyone is questioning that it is part of the official rules. Otherwise, it would not have taken place. I think several are wondering why a rule allowing competitors to quit and call it a tie is part of the official rules.
For people saying that it shouldn't be allowed. Also to consider weather conditions. Health of competitors. Time curfew of a venue.
It was a fitting result. Just like the Tokyo Olympics men's High Jump.
If the rules change in the future so be it.
"There are a number of ways in which a jump-off may be terminated: a. by provision in advance of the competition set out in the regulations; b. by decision during the competition by the Technical Delegate (or Referee if there is no Technical Delegate); c. by decision of the athletes not to jump further prior to or at any stage of the jump-off. Whilst any decision by the Technical Delegate or Referee not to conduct a jump-off should be made before the start of the event, there may be circumstances where this might not be possible such as where conditions at the place of competition make it impossible or undesirable to begin or continue with a jump-off. The Referee could use their powers under Rule 18 of the Competition Rules or Rule 25 of the Technical Rules to deal with this situation. It is emphasised that the athletes may make the decision not to jump further either before or at any stage during the jump-off."
Thought I had was to have a 3-vault tiebreaker, maybe at the highest height they cleared or a bit lower. Vault that thing three times, and if it is still tied, sudden death continuing at the same height.
I think the tie is fine so long as the athletes put in an honest effort and go through all their attempts. Everyone wants to be the best in the world - nobody wants to share that honor and say there is another athlete as good as they are. If it ends in a tie, that's the result. Theoretically the whole field could be gold medalists as long as they each put up a mark.
Ties in field events are always broken at all levels including middle school. I have never heard of athletes being allowed to agree to tie until the HJ a few years ago and now this. One thing t&f has promoted from its inception is "there are no ties in t&f".
Your first and third sentences are false. There have been ties in Olympic athletics (track and field) since the original Games of 1896. Regarding your second sentence, I have no particular reason to doubt your ignorance, but I can think of a number of intentional ties in athletics. The first to come to my mind was the intentional tie by Frank Shorter and Kenny Moore for first place at the 1972 U.S. Olympic Trials in the marathon.
In today’s women’s PV, how do you determine the tie breaker? They tied in misses. Neither we’re going to clear 4.95. How would you resolve it?
Jump off procedure:
1) Each takes one more attempt at 4.95.
a) If one clears and the other misses, it is over.
b) If both clear, bar moves up.
c) If both miss, bar moves down (the ONLY time a bar can be lowered during a competition)
2) Each competitor gets one attempt at each height. Proces above continues until eventually one clears and the other doesn't.
So what happens if both miss at a) but clear c)? The bar goes up again? And if they both miss then, does it go back down, or if they both make it at the lowered height, does the bar go back up?
Do think it would have made the national news if there was a clear winner?
Nope, not at all, because the American mainstream media news couldn't give two craps about track and field unless if there's any BLM/LGBTQ+ virtue signalling going on.