I don't care how many. You stated that the Kenyans who have been caught doping were second tier. There was no time frame in the comment. I gave you some examples. Rhonex Kipruto is a recent one. Here's some lists.,
So, these people just walk in to a pharmacy in some country other than here, and just order EPO?
Apparently....
Or as I related from researchers/analysts within WADA labs, they are not happy with the subjective test on something that hasn't been normalised across racial groups.
In the future there will be more robust tests that will objectively state synthetic or not. Unfortunately testing is always going to be way behind the PED, that is the nature of it, but it is unscientific to role out a test 'just because we have it' especially if it is subjective.
Most of the problems there are in the second tier with athletes like Agnes who never ranked higher than 47th in the world. But clearly enough samples were taken to get her via the blood passport. It’s another step in the right direction.
Well for one, the second tier is a lot larger than the 1st, so one might expect to find more dopers there.
Second, calling a female 2:20 marathon runner second tier is quite elite. Only three Americans have ever run faster.
Third, jacksprat already gave you examples of a 3:26 runner, a WR holder, and a majors winner. There are plenty more of that caliber, not to mention that Kwemoi as well ran under 27 and 59 minutes, for example Jeptoo, Cherono, Kipserem, Kiptum, Kiproto, Chepchirchir, Wanjiru, Manangoi, Renju, Kitwara, Kisorio, Korio, ...
Whatever tier, Agnes Barsosio ran 2:20:59, six years ago back in 2017, and currently outside of the top-200 top performances. She slipped to 2:25 in 2019, and 2:29 in 2021.
He's the main voice for doping-denial on these threads. But he has company, with those who take the same approach. I guess you're one of them.
I only deny doping when athletes are innocent.
The difference is I presume that athletes are innocent until proven guilty.
You argue they are innocent even after they have been found guilty. You do so by attacking the antidoping system as "unfair and unjust". You also see "contaminated pork" everywhere - for Houlihan and countless Kenyan athletes. If the equivalent subject was the US elections, COVID or the moon landings you would be known as a conspiracy theorist.
The difference is I presume that athletes are innocent until proven guilty.
You argue they are innocent even after they have been found guilty. You do so by attacking the antidoping system as "unfair and unjust". You also see "contaminated pork" everywhere - for Houlihan and countless Kenyan athletes. If the equivalent subject was the US elections, COVID or the moon landings you would be known as a conspiracy theorist.
I would be known as a sceptic waiting for conclusive proof.
Being found guilty of rule violations in arbitration, and being proved guilty of doping, are two different things.
I'm in agreement with top conspiracists like Richard McClaren, a top anti-doping WADA "sports lawyer who authored two Reports into Russian State doping for (WADA)", when he conceded the system is "more loaded against the athlete", and USADA's top anti-doping chief Travis Tygart who says that from 2015, the system "railroads innocent athletes to 4-year sanctions", "treating them like intentional cheats" when they have done nothing wrong.
I never speak of "contaminated" pork. Nandrolone is inherently present in non-castrated pigs. This is not like farmers injecting steroids in cattle. It was the AIU pig farming expert who told us that such non-castrated pigs do slip past USDA inspectors - as many as 12,000 per year in the USA -- either unnoticed, or by passing a sniff test. And it is public knowledge that Kenyan farmers do not routinely castrate their pigs, unlike America and Canada.
You argue they are innocent even after they have been found guilty. You do so by attacking the antidoping system as "unfair and unjust". You also see "contaminated pork" everywhere - for Houlihan and countless Kenyan athletes. If the equivalent subject was the US elections, COVID or the moon landings you would be known as a conspiracy theorist.
I would be known as a sceptic waiting for conclusive proof.
Being found guilty of rule violations in arbitration, and being proved guilty of doping, are two different things.
I'm in agreement with top conspiracists like Richard McClaren, a top anti-doping WADA "sports lawyer who authored two Reports into Russian State doping for (WADA)", when he conceded the system is "more loaded against the athlete", and USADA's top anti-doping chief Travis Tygart who says that from 2015, the system "railroads innocent athletes to 4-year sanctions", "treating them like intentional cheats" when they have done nothing wrong.
I never speak of "contaminated" pork. Nandrolone is inherently present in non-castrated pigs. This is not like farmers injecting steroids in cattle. It was the AIU pig farming expert who told us that such non-castrated pigs do slip past USDA inspectors - as many as 12,000 per year in the USA -- either unnoticed, or by passing a sniff test. And it is public knowledge that Kenyan farmers do not routinely castrate their pigs, unlike America and Canada.
And round and round he goes. All it takes is for me to push that button and he plays like a record.
I would be known as a sceptic waiting for conclusive proof.
Being found guilty of rule violations in arbitration, and being proved guilty of doping, are two different things.
I'm in agreement with top conspiracists like Richard McClaren, a top anti-doping WADA "sports lawyer who authored two Reports into Russian State doping for (WADA)", when he conceded the system is "more loaded against the athlete", and USADA's top anti-doping chief Travis Tygart who says that from 2015, the system "railroads innocent athletes to 4-year sanctions", "treating them like intentional cheats" when they have done nothing wrong.
I never speak of "contaminated" pork. Nandrolone is inherently present in non-castrated pigs. This is not like farmers injecting steroids in cattle. It was the AIU pig farming expert who told us that such non-castrated pigs do slip past USDA inspectors - as many as 12,000 per year in the USA -- either unnoticed, or by passing a sniff test. And it is public knowledge that Kenyan farmers do not routinely castrate their pigs, unlike America and Canada.
And round and round he goes. All it takes is for me to push that button and he plays like a record.
All it takes is for him to post and you go on a 3 day posting bender replying to him. Good dog, Army 🦴