The old school 1230m pacer a-la William Tainui. I will check with some sources and see if there is any heat to that. If this was true then it wouldn't be unreasonable to think they would want him to run under 2.46 through 1200 which would mean Jakob is looking to run in the low 27's
Understandable that Jakob keeps chasing times, but you’d think at least once before Budapest he might like to try a 1500 against quality competition with no pacers. Is it like a rule that every DL distance race must be paced? It’s sort of boring after a while. Who decides about the pacers? Can the athletes, or an athlete of Jakob’s stature, say no pacers this time out?
He is going to try to run alone in the front instead of running alone in the front? And boring? Really? Wow.
Understandable that Jakob keeps chasing times, but you’d think at least once before Budapest he might like to try a 1500 against quality competition with no pacers. Is it like a rule that every DL distance race must be paced? It’s sort of boring after a while. Who decides about the pacers? Can the athletes, or an athlete of Jakob’s stature, say no pacers this time out?
He is going to try to run alone in the front instead of running alone in the front? And boring? Really? Wow.
He’s not alone at the front from the gun. He’s paced for at least 1000m and has the wave light. Listen, I’m all for Jakob trying to break 3:27 or at least get a new PB, but I’d think these guys, and especially Jakob, might want to try a championship style race before Budapest. Probably this field isn’t really strong enough for him to learn too much now that Katir has dropped and with no Nuguse, Kerr or Tim, so sure, go for another fast time, but do you think Oslo would have been the exact same race without the pacers?
You're building your own theories. Katir belong to the top elite and follow his own planning.
It would be disappointing if Katir skips both the Silesia 1500 and the Monaco 5,000. But I think he might be PR hunting in Monaco. Could that race in general be a World Record attempt?
He is going to try to run alone in the front instead of running alone in the front? And boring? Really? Wow.
He’s not alone at the front from the gun. He’s paced for at least 1000m and has the wave light. Listen, I’m all for Jakob trying to break 3:27 or at least get a new PB, but I’d think these guys, and especially Jakob, might want to try a championship style race before Budapest. Probably this field isn’t really strong enough for him to learn too much now that Katir has dropped and with no Nuguse, Kerr or Tim, so sure, go for another fast time, but do you think Oslo would have been the exact same race without the pacers?
Who said it would be the exact same race? I just dont think running a race without a pacer against Nuguse and Kerr would make much of a difference for Jakob. I think he will spend the prelims in the wc to test how that feels.
You're building your own theories. Katir belong to the top elite and follow his own planning.
It would be disappointing if Katir skips both the Silesia 1500 and the Monaco 5,000. But I think he might be PR hunting in Monaco. Could that race in general be a World Record attempt?
I think Katir is aware that he is not yet in position to challenge Jakob the right way. Maybe he put priority on working his ceiling.
This looks very good for a new Jakob PB. No Katir or Tim means that no one are likely to follow him if he goes sub 3:28 pace. He can thus risk more, and won't have to save that much of a kick to ensure a win.
Stewie seems to approach 3:31-32 shape, and should hopefully be able to hold at least 1100m at 3:27 pace if he really is pacing this. That would be huge.
If Jakob's management bother to both have Katir delisted and hire McSweyn to pace, I believe Jakob must be in shape to target sub 3:27 and close to 2:46 for 1200. Let's hope for good conditions!
Why on earth should Jakob´s management have Katir delisted?
This looks very good for a new Jakob PB. No Katir or Tim means that no one are likely to follow him if he goes sub 3:28 pace. He can thus risk more, and won't have to save that much of a kick to ensure a win.
Stewie seems to approach 3:31-32 shape, and should hopefully be able to hold at least 1100m at 3:27 pace if he really is pacing this. That would be huge.
If Jakob's management bother to both have Katir delisted and hire McSweyn to pace, I believe Jakob must be in shape to target sub 3:27 and close to 2:46 for 1200. Let's hope for good conditions!
Why on earth should Jakob´s management have Katir delisted?
This looks very good for a new Jakob PB. No Katir or Tim means that no one are likely to follow him if he goes sub 3:28 pace. He can thus risk more, and won't have to save that much of a kick to ensure a win.
Stewie seems to approach 3:31-32 shape, and should hopefully be able to hold at least 1100m at 3:27 pace if he really is pacing this. That would be huge.
If Jakob's management bother to both have Katir delisted and hire McSweyn to pace, I believe Jakob must be in shape to target sub 3:27 and close to 2:46 for 1200. Let's hope for good conditions!
Why on earth should Jakob´s management have Katir delisted?
Ingebrigtsen, who recently set a European record at 1500 metres at the Diamond League in Oslo, is set to race in Silesia for the last time before the World Championships in Budapest. His rivals include the Spaniard Mohamed Katir, the second fastest European of all time. The program also includes two women's middle-distance races. In the 800 metres, Sofia Ennaoui (*), making her season debut, will face the world leader Mary Moraa, who recently impressed the fans in Lausanne with her form. The 1500 metres will feature a duel between Diribe Welteji and Birke Haylom. The latter, a U18 athlete, set a new world U20 record for the mile in Oslo.
It's quite interesting to see two "Moroccans" making the glory of the European Athletics.
And Spain didn't had a serious case if doping in years and years.
Their pool of AIU non eligible runners is restricted to 5 cases.
(*) Born in Ben Guerir near Marrakesh.
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Why on earth should Jakob´s management have Katir delisted?
Some people here have a wild imagination!
The reason is explicitly stated in the post you quoted?
Having his closest competitors in a race is not ideal for Jakob when he wants to TT for a best possible time. Jakob is obsessed with winning, and if Katir or Tim sits on him with 400 to go, he will hold back slightly to ensure he preserves the kick needed to win. If they are not there, he can risk going full throttle for the entire last lap (still winning if he fades the last 100m).
This should not be very surprising, it is common practice for TT record attemps. You don't want to risk acting like a rabbit for someone to beat you. Same as if Cheptegei, Kiplimo or Aregawi were to set up a TT-attempt for the 5000 WR, they would not like Jakob or any of the two others to be in the race with them.
And what does Katir say about being 'delisted'? Just shrugs his shoulders and wishes Jakob good luck for his time trial? It's not like the 80's where if Coe or Ovett didn't want to face each other in the 1500, they would just set up a high-quality mile race in addition to keep them both happy.
Is Stewie capable of pacing a 3,26 race for 1200 meters this year? What does it take?
No. I’d rather see one of the Kenyans as second pacer over Sowinski or an ailing Stewie. If Tim was in the race, perhaps Keter could do it. Munguti/Kiprugut also viable.
The big attraction for me will be to see Reynold Cheruiyot. Basically stopped trying with spot secure at Kenyan trials, he might really go right at Jakob. Jakob will surely outlast him, but could be exciting nonetheless.
McSweyn ran faster in his last race than any of those 3 Kenyans ever have, and he split 2:48.6 for 1200, .5 seconds behind Jakob. For all we know he’s fast tracking back to 3:29/3:30 shape. You can’t complain about having Sowinski and McSweyn as pacers. Sowinski is no doubt capable of hitting 900 in 2:04.5-2:05.0, and McSweyn can then drop Jakob off at the bell at 2:32-low.
Sure he’s had a couple ailments/setbacks the last two years, but he still ran 3:30.18 last year and is down to 3:32.85 so far this season (in his first 1500 of the year).